2009-09-15T00:00:43 jonstahl has quit IRC 2009-09-15T00:43:45 DigitalD has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T00:46:09 DigitalD has quit IRC 2009-09-15T01:17:05 ErikRose_ has quit IRC 2009-09-15T01:32:27 KurtB has quit IRC 2009-09-15T01:37:15 webliontickets: Changeset [8591]: Passively migrate persistent dict 2009-09-15T01:38:32 webliontickets: Changeset [8592]: Default to false, not none 2009-09-15T05:30:08 esteele has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T05:30:08 ChanServ sets mode: +o esteele 2009-09-15T06:19:57 esteele has quit IRC 2009-09-15T07:14:45 pumazi has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T07:14:45 ChanServ sets mode: +o pumazi 2009-09-15T07:22:46 rjmcclosky has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T07:53:37 cah190 has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T08:08:47 webliontickets: Ticket #1347 (Product Installs for VBS) closed 2009-09-15T08:16:44 webliontickets: Changeset [8593]: Hiding contentleadimage from gallery view. 2009-09-15T08:17:22 esteele has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T08:17:22 ChanServ sets mode: +o esteele 2009-09-15T08:20:09 webliontickets: Changeset [8594]: Made the Zoom link go to the full size image rather than image_large. 2009-09-15T08:22:01 webliontickets: Ticket #1409 (Install Ploneboard for VBS) closed 2009-09-15T08:24:28 webliontickets: Ticket #810 (Redirect User to Previously Viewed Page) closed 2009-09-15T08:25:21 rwellar has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T08:25:24 rwellar has left #weblion 2009-09-15T08:25:30 rwellar has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T08:25:31 webliontickets: Ticket #803 (Implement Main Functional Elements (Parent Ticket)) closed 2009-09-15T08:26:52 webliontickets: Ticket #806 (Breakdown Large Content Object [Paginating] (Parent Ticket)) closed | Ticket #808 (Link to Enable and/or Disable Mobilize) closed | Ticket #809 (Create Basic code to Enable, Disable, Status Check, etc.) closed 2009-09-15T08:28:52 webliontickets: Ticket #805 (Add Mobilize Enabled Style (Parent Ticket)) closed | Ticket #804 (Remove Unnecessary Elements (Parent Ticket)) closed 2009-09-15T08:33:17 paul_r has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T08:37:14 _markb1_ has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T08:37:30 _markb1_ is now known as _markb1_rsn 2009-09-15T08:40:25 taraemily has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T08:40:28 michaelmiller has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T08:40:28 ChanServ sets mode: +o michaelmiller 2009-09-15T08:46:54 Hey, Weblion folks... Looks like we're having some issues with Zope not starting up correctly on the AgSci site. 2009-09-15T08:47:48 What's the error/traceback? 2009-09-15T08:47:57 It starts, and Python goes through it's normal high CPU usage to begin with, and then the CPU drops back down to idle. I can't get a response out of Zope. 2009-09-15T08:48:56 cah190: There isn't actually an error... It just doesn't respond to any requests. The zeo client is listening on the correct port, but an HTTP GET just hangs. 2009-09-15T08:49:01 qwebirc86147 has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T08:50:59 That's odd. Is the ZEO server definitely running? 2009-09-15T08:51:00 Aha... And it finally decided to come back up. 2009-09-15T08:51:39 Yep... I hit both the client and the server on the appropriate ports. 2009-09-15T08:51:45 Let me see how long that took to come up. 2009-09-15T08:52:19 mikehalm has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T08:52:32 qwebirc86147 has quit IRC 2009-09-15T08:52:57 That's really weird, it took around 10 minutes from the "Zope Ready to handle requests" message until it actually came back up. 2009-09-15T08:55:34 That seems awfully long. Anything odd in the logs? 2009-09-15T08:57:46 webliontickets: Changeset [8595]: removed restricted addable types at site root, currently causing an error 2009-09-15T08:58:37 cmore has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T09:00:59 cah190: I see some invalid URLs, but nothing that seems out of the ordinary: http://pastie.org/617345 2009-09-15T09:01:31 It seems to have hung again after giving us a few pages. 2009-09-15T09:02:45 The startup looks fine, so I'd have to think there's something going on that's making the requests really slow. 2009-09-15T09:02:58 Install/update any products recently? 2009-09-15T09:04:33 * pumazi is getting his sense of smell back... 2009-09-15T09:04:49 Mmm. Subway. ;) 2009-09-15T09:04:50 ahh... the wonderful smell of subway 2009-09-15T09:04:51 I updated a product this morning, but it was just a CSS/template change. 2009-09-15T09:04:54 :P 2009-09-15T09:05:31 Any recursion/looping in the changed template(s)? 2009-09-15T09:06:40 jjmojojjmojo has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T09:06:51 I don't think so. I'm going to back out that change for lack of anything else to try right now! 2009-09-15T09:07:54 That's all I can think of, so hopefully backing the change out will make things faster. 2009-09-15T09:10:51 kevin7kal has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T09:10:52 ChanServ sets mode: +o kevin7kal 2009-09-15T09:10:53 webliontickets: Ticket #1420 (Update products) closed 2009-09-15T09:11:06 cah190: This is really odd... These are the changes I backed out, and it's working again. https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/changeset?new=8594%40agSciencesCollege%2Fplonegalleryview&old=8588%40agSciencesCollege%2Fplonegalleryview 2009-09-15T09:11:53 michaelmiller has quit IRC 2009-09-15T09:11:59 I think you want /image_normal instead of just /image. 2009-09-15T09:12:32 esteele: /image is a valid URL, though: http://agsci.psu.edu/dean/photos/20090819-ag-progress-days/2009-apd-01.jpg/image 2009-09-15T09:13:23 True. That's just a string concat, so it shouldn't be an issue... 2009-09-15T09:14:19 Hmm... Not seeing the error in there. 2009-09-15T09:14:55 I see some changesets in that product from 18 hours ago, were they previously deployed? 2009-09-15T09:15:22 esteele: It works fine in our development environment. We've actually seen this before, although not this bad. 2009-09-15T09:15:23 webliontickets: Ticket #859 (Package PloneFormGen) updated 2009-09-15T09:15:48 Cases where it doesn't come back after five minutes or so, and I have to kick it again. 2009-09-15T09:17:02 can we just blame the crop circles on google.com? Seems like an obvious scapegoat. 2009-09-15T09:22:15 webliontickets: College Of Ag Sciences/content-specialists edited 2009-09-15T09:22:24 Franke has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T09:22:42 I just ran an fsrefs on last night's backup, and it did come back with a bunch of errors. http://pastie.org/617370 2009-09-15T09:27:02 RobZoneNet has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T09:27:02 ChanServ sets mode: +o RobZoneNet 2009-09-15T09:35:52 jjmojojjmojo has quit IRC 2009-09-15T09:41:10 webliontickets: College Of Ag Sciences/content-specialists edited 2009-09-15T09:44:23 simmerdesigns has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T09:46:51 cmore has quit IRC 2009-09-15T09:49:43 _markb1_rsn is now known as _markb1_ 2009-09-15T09:55:13 jjmojojjmojo has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T09:59:22 hello everyone 2009-09-15T09:59:34 ErikRose_ has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T09:59:53 hello ErikRose 2009-09-15T09:59:55 Hi Dr. RobZoneNet! 2009-09-15T09:59:58 hehe 2009-09-15T10:00:07 hey tsimkins :) 2009-09-15T10:00:13 Greets! 2009-09-15T10:00:43 hello pumazi 2009-09-15T10:00:50 Hi, tsimkins. 2009-09-15T10:00:58 showing off irc 2009-09-15T10:01:11 Aha. :-) I thought you were just extra friendly this morning. 2009-09-15T10:01:15 IRC FTW! 2009-09-15T10:02:25 hello RobZoneNet 2009-09-15T10:03:16 ErikRose_: Did you see my email on the Zope issues this morning? 2009-09-15T10:03:24 Hmm, not yet... 2009-09-15T10:03:39 I'll be in in about half an hour. Anything pressing? 2009-09-15T10:04:29 rosepruyne has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T10:04:33 Nope, we're back up now. We had Zope issues, and I'm seeing a bunch of problems when I run fsrefs on a copy of the Data.fs, even after an fsrecover. Nothing that can't wait half an hour though. 2009-09-15T10:04:41 ok 2009-09-15T10:04:56 I don't think fsrecover should fix fsrefs problems, fwiw. 2009-09-15T10:05:22 fsrecover just jettisons too-short or otherwise corrupt transactions. 2009-09-15T10:05:37 fsrefs actually gets in there and cares about the obejct references. 2009-09-15T10:05:48 There's no automated way to fix dangling refs. 2009-09-15T10:05:53 Aha... That explains it. 2009-09-15T10:11:13 rosepruyne has quit IRC 2009-09-15T10:12:32 jonstahl has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T10:15:23 Franke has quit IRC 2009-09-15T10:23:40 sallyk has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T10:29:22 webliontickets: College Of Ag Sciences/content-specialists edited 2009-09-15T10:55:57 gto1 has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T10:56:45 gto1 has quit IRC 2009-09-15T11:29:01 RobZoneNet has quit IRC 2009-09-15T11:30:57 paul_r has quit IRC 2009-09-15T11:35:39 webliontickets: Theming Sprint edited 2009-09-15T11:37:06 esteele changes topic to "Theming Sprint this Friday: http://bit.ly/4mEDtI · http://weblion.psu.edu · Chat logs: http://weblion.psu.edu/chatlogs/%23weblion/today To avoid being logged, start your message with [nolog]." 2009-09-15T11:43:56 cyvaquero has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T11:44:41 tsimkins: Those fsrefs errors are almost doubtless the result of the transactions stripped off by fsrecover. 2009-09-15T11:45:07 cyvaquero has quit IRC 2009-09-15T11:45:26 cyvaquero has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T11:45:39 The question is what's causing the bad transactions. That's really weird. 2009-09-15T11:46:30 ErikRose: They seem to date back quite awhile, so I don't think my experiment in multiple ZEOs was the (sole) culprit. 2009-09-15T11:46:55 Have we ever got this to an uncorrupted state and seen if it recurs? 2009-09-15T11:47:24 I've done fsrecover's that have fixed it for awhile. I just started looking at fsrefs today. 2009-09-15T11:47:55 I ran the script in this blog post through a copy of Data.fs, and it pulled out one issue. http://spamsch.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-to-repair-broken-zodb-poskeyerror.html 2009-09-15T11:48:49 When I manually looked through fsdump transactions, it found that one and some others. 2009-09-15T11:49:15 Some with known issues, others without. 2009-09-15T11:49:50 ErikRose: Are you going to be at the psuweb lunch today? 2009-09-15T11:49:57 Hadn't planned on it 2009-09-15T11:50:19 Who's speaking? 2009-09-15T11:50:47 http://psuwebdev.ning.com/events/september-web-developer-lunch 2009-09-15T11:51:29 I like this script, at first glance. 2009-09-15T11:51:59 This is my "thereifixedplone.com" machete approach to removing dangling references, since the manage_delObjects() gives errors: http://pastie.org/617555 2009-09-15T11:52:17 Looks like a good talk, but I need to get some other work done. 2009-09-15T11:52:52 Cool. I'm going to head out there now, but I'd like to see if you have any other ideas on fixing dangling references when I get back. 2009-09-15T11:53:10 Yeah, that'll work for Folders but not for Large Folders. 2009-09-15T11:53:37 paul_r has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T11:56:51 paul_r_ has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T11:56:51 paul_r has quit IRC 2009-09-15T11:56:56 paul_r_ is now known as paul_r 2009-09-15T12:10:04 cyvaquero has quit IRC 2009-09-15T12:12:13 RobZoneNet has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T12:12:13 ChanServ sets mode: +o RobZoneNet 2009-09-15T12:21:53 _markb1_ is now known as _markb1_LUNch 2009-09-15T12:35:41 netropic has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T12:45:25 esteele is now known as esteele|away 2009-09-15T13:07:09 esteele|away is now known as esteele 2009-09-15T13:14:41 paul_r has quit IRC 2009-09-15T13:27:11 webliontickets: Changeset [8596]: Fixed a missing import in viewlets.py and made the bottom portlet styles ... 2009-09-15T13:32:49 RobZoneNet_ has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T13:32:49 ChanServ sets mode: +o RobZoneNet_ 2009-09-15T13:37:13 DigitalD has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T13:37:14 webliontickets: Changeset [8597]: On second thought, those portlet styles do need to be page-specific since ... 2009-09-15T13:38:23 michaelmiller has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T13:38:23 ChanServ sets mode: +o michaelmiller 2009-09-15T13:49:51 RobZoneNet has quit IRC 2009-09-15T13:49:51 RobZoneNet_ is now known as RobZoneNet 2009-09-15T13:52:06 webliontickets: Ticket #1430 (manager account and 2 min webserver auth tutorial - for data migration) created 2009-09-15T13:54:36 michaelmiller has quit IRC 2009-09-15T13:57:35 hi erikrose! would you happen to have any availability this week for me to stop down for a brief time? i need to fix something that's happening with the crbh site. i think it will be a reasonably quick fix. the head of crbh had www.das.psu.edu/crbh bookmarked, and there's a little theme product bleed-through thing going on. 2009-09-15T13:59:32 we fixed the same thing with the crbh.psu.edu url; it was a fairly quick fix. can't recall what it was at the moment. 2009-09-15T13:59:59 paul_r has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T14:01:21 rpruyne: I see an out-of-place portlet and some images that won't load. Is that the problem? 2009-09-15T14:01:50 _markb1_LUNch is now known as _markb1_ 2009-09-15T14:02:29 esteele has quit IRC 2009-09-15T14:03:29 It was probably not a good idea for us to place one Plone site at the root of the domain and other ones at the first level. 2009-09-15T14:03:46 I was smarter with http://projects.pop.psu.edu/ . 2009-09-15T14:04:09 (The main site lives under /overview.) 2009-09-15T14:04:42 rpruyne: I have some time Monday at 4 or anytime Tuesday. 2009-09-15T14:07:55 erikrose, sorry, i had to walk away from my machine for a while there...anyway, yeah, that's the problem. and monday at 4 sounds dandy! 2009-09-15T14:08:09 I'll put you down. 2009-09-15T14:08:34 esteele has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T14:08:34 ChanServ sets mode: +o esteele 2009-09-15T14:09:03 thanks so much, erikrose! i think it's the header bleeding through. similar to what was happening before. 2009-09-15T14:09:11 esteele has quit IRC 2009-09-15T14:10:00 The skin is using relative URLs for the images: "agsci-college-logo.png". It should stick $portal_url in there. 2009-09-15T14:10:59 Well, navigation_root_url, these days. Or, better still (for customizability, not caching), the URL of the current folder. 2009-09-15T14:11:25 no problem, erikrose; i can make those replacements. i'll look around for other similar issues before monday, as well. with any luck, i'll figure it out and we won't need to get together. 2009-09-15T14:11:35 That would be sad. :-) 2009-09-15T14:11:44 I don't know what's up with your portlet, though. 2009-09-15T14:11:59 i'll make sure i break something on purpose so we can still chat then, erikrose. : ) 2009-09-15T14:12:17 OTOH, there's no such image as http://www.das.psu.edu/crbh/agsci-college-logo.png, either. 2009-09-15T14:12:22 So it's not as simple as that. 2009-09-15T14:12:30 cyvaquero has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T14:12:31 webliontickets: College Of Ag Sciences/content-specialists edited 2009-09-15T14:12:54 Afternoon guys 2009-09-15T14:13:33 yeah, there's considerable portlet screwiness. and style screwiness. parts of the theme product on das.psu.edu are definitely finding their way through. it happened with the crbh.psu.edu url a while back. i *think* there was some outdated info in one of the config files in apache, but don't quote me on that! 2009-09-15T14:13:34 webliontickets: Ticket #1275 (Identify content types) updated 2009-09-15T14:13:59 plus it might be a different deal altogether this time around. 2009-09-15T14:14:12 but i can at least fix those cruddy old style rules. 2009-09-15T14:14:47 webliontickets: Ticket #1430 (manager account and 2 min webserver auth tutorial - for data migration) closed 2009-09-15T14:16:11 webliontickets: Ticket #1265 (Unit meetings with Directors) closed 2009-09-15T14:16:46 mikehalm has quit IRC 2009-09-15T14:21:25 webliontickets: Ticket #1259 (Determine roles for Alumni Association Staff) closed | Ticket #1259 (Determine roles for Alumni Association Staff) updated 2009-09-15T14:23:21 cyvaquero has quit IRC 2009-09-15T14:24:02 webliontickets: Ticket #1263 (User research) updated 2009-09-15T14:25:03 webliontickets: Ticket #1275 (Identify content types) closed | Ticket #1275 (Identify content types) updated 2009-09-15T14:32:16 webliontickets: Ticket #1431 (Define "Trip" Type) created 2009-09-15T14:33:47 webliontickets: Ticket #1431 (Define "Trip" Type) updated 2009-09-15T14:34:25 michaelmiller has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T14:34:25 ChanServ sets mode: +o michaelmiller 2009-09-15T14:36:15 webliontickets: Ticket #1432 (Define "award" type) created 2009-09-15T14:36:55 rpruyne: I'm a little late to the discussion, but could you do an Apache redirect in DAS to ship people over to the correct site? Something like: 2009-09-15T14:37:23 RewriteRule /crbh(/.*|$) http://crbh.psu.edu$1 [R=301,L] 2009-09-15T14:37:24 webliontickets: Ticket #1433 (Burn CD os Web server data files for content migration) created 2009-09-15T14:40:07 webliontickets: Ticket #1434 (Get a finalized design from Jen.) created | Ticket #1433 (Burn CD os Web server data files for content migration) closed | Ticket #1433 (Burn CD os Web server data files for content migration) updated 2009-09-15T14:40:22 tsimkins, yeah; something along those lines. content providers need to still get to https://www.das.psu.edu/crbh. that's how they get to the crbh site to edit. 2009-09-15T14:40:59 rpruyne: Could you just redirect the http version only, though? 2009-09-15T14:41:45 webliontickets: Ticket #1435 (wdt102) created | Ticket #1434 (Get a finalized design from Jen.) updated 2009-09-15T14:43:41 webliontickets: Ticket #1435 (Create a Theme product for the site...) updated | Ticket #1435 (Create a Theme product for the site...) created 2009-09-15T14:48:30 tsimkins; i'll give that a try this afternoon if i have a chance. last time it was an issue with proxying to squid, possibly this time around the rewrite is all i need. 2009-09-15T14:54:19 webliontickets: Ticket #1429 (Make auxiliary storages pack) closed | Changeset [8598]: * Auxiliary storages are now packed. (Closes #1429.) * ZODB packs now ... | Ticket #1429 (Make auxiliary storages pack) updated 2009-09-15T14:55:53 yeah, looks like that redirect isn't in sites-available/enabled, tsimkins. so there you go. 2009-09-15T14:56:40 simmerdesigns has quit IRC 2009-09-15T14:59:07 dcnoye1 has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T14:59:50 krd111 has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T14:59:51 rpruyne: We've had really good luck tucking subsites that are separate Plone sites underneath the main site via Apache. For example, http://agsci.psu.edu/futurestudents is a completely separate Plone site. You might be able to pull the crbh site out to the root level, and use Apache to control the public crbh.psu.edu and the private das.psu.edu/crbh 2009-09-15T15:01:46 tsimkins, that's actually the way /crbh is set up. it's at the root level as a completely separate plone site. 2009-09-15T15:03:28 Oh, I must have mis-read what ErikRose was saying earlier. 2009-09-15T15:03:37 We've had bad experiences with Plone sites within a Plone site. 2009-09-15T15:03:54 moi aussi, tsimkins. 2009-09-15T15:07:27 cbcunc has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T15:08:07 rpruyne: I'll be happy to work through any Apache redirects with you. We do a fair amount of it on the AgSci homepage, and there's a few different scenarios we've handled. 2009-09-15T15:09:06 thanks, tsimkins; i'll keep that in mind! 2009-09-15T15:09:07 webliontickets: Ticket #1436 (change whatever is preventing anon users to view site) created 2009-09-15T15:09:13 It looks like the virtual host monster for the das.psu.edu/crbh site may be a little off, or there's some kind of acquisition going on. 2009-09-15T15:16:20 webliontickets: Ticket #1437 (fix date display for content objects) created 2009-09-15T15:16:59 dcnoye has quit IRC 2009-09-15T15:24:36 DigitalD has quit IRC 2009-09-15T15:30:27 webliontickets: Changeset [8599]: Add Center and Institute content types. Change widget for Technologies ... 2009-09-15T15:34:47 rpruyne has quit IRC 2009-09-15T15:40:07 mrfrenzy has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T15:42:30 webliontickets: Changeset [8600]: More descriptive text. 2009-09-15T15:48:30 kevin7kal has quit IRC 2009-09-15T15:50:32 webliontickets: Changeset [8601]: Center, Institute now subclass Facility. Set both to filter content types. 2009-09-15T15:54:33 webliontickets: Ticket #1438 (Some ZMI icons don't display) created 2009-09-15T15:56:20 mikehalm has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T15:56:43 jjmojojjmojo has quit IRC 2009-09-15T15:57:14 webliontickets: Changeset [8602]: Added more navigation portlets. 2009-09-15T15:59:37 webliontickets: Ticket #1438 (Some ZMI icons don't display) closed 2009-09-15T16:02:10 pumazi has quit IRC 2009-09-15T16:07:58 pumazi has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T16:07:58 ChanServ sets mode: +o pumazi 2009-09-15T16:16:40 rjmcclosky has quit IRC 2009-09-15T16:17:57 simmerdesigns has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T16:19:51 cah190 has quit IRC 2009-09-15T16:22:33 webliontickets: Changeset [8603]: Add equipment type field. 2009-09-15T16:24:46 webliontickets: Changeset [8604]: Fixed alt text on initial photos. 2009-09-15T16:32:25 paul_r has quit IRC 2009-09-15T16:43:31 cewing has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T16:55:44 KurtB has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T16:56:37 krd111 has quit IRC 2009-09-15T17:04:45 http://www.virtuosimedia.com/tutorials/ultimate-ie6-cheatsheet-how-to-fix-25-internet-explorer-6-bugs 2009-09-15T17:08:08 webliontickets: College Of Ag Sciences/content-specialists edited | Cheat Sheets edited 2009-09-15T17:12:50 kevin7kal has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T17:12:50 ChanServ sets mode: +o kevin7kal 2009-09-15T17:13:29 _markb1_ has quit IRC 2009-09-15T17:16:24 kevin7kal has quit IRC 2009-09-15T17:26:47 ErikRose: ping 2009-09-15T17:27:01 or perhaps KurtB :) 2009-09-15T17:27:10 Hi. 2009-09-15T17:27:25 pong 2009-09-15T17:27:31 I've been doing some more digging into my TTW cut-and-paste problem and I've discovered something interesting 2009-09-15T17:27:54 cewing is on west-coast time. :-) 2009-09-15T17:28:36 It appears that when I'm reaching a page in my site via the apache->squid->pound->zope->zeo signal chain, it makes a difference if apache is http or https 2009-09-15T17:28:44 Here's the evidence: 2009-09-15T17:29:11 via http (my virtual host going over :8901) I see _all_ the cookies I'm expecting at the end of the chain 2009-09-15T17:29:35 via https (my standard :443 virtual host) I see _none_ of the cookies I'm expecting 2009-09-15T17:29:57 I set up a python script to show the request in my site and accessed it in both ways, and those were the results. 2009-09-15T17:30:00 That certainly qualifies as a difference. :-) 2009-09-15T17:30:12 DId you read the page source, perchance? 2009-09-15T17:30:21 I did the ShowTheRequest trick last week, and the rendered page was lying to me. 2009-09-15T17:30:36 I guess somebody forgot to escape the cookies. 2009-09-15T17:30:46 I have also found out that all the cookies are present in request headers when passing through squid 2009-09-15T17:31:09 ErikRose: I have not tried that. Let me look and see 2009-09-15T17:31:10 So you're saying they disappear *after* going through Squid? 2009-09-15T17:31:12 So, the're getting eaten by pound? 2009-09-15T17:31:20 it appears that way, yes 2009-09-15T17:31:33 http://www.omnomnomnom.com/ 2009-09-15T17:31:42 yes, KurtB, but only when apache is listening via https :/ 2009-09-15T17:31:44 Hahaha!!! 2009-09-15T17:32:45 hm. 2009-09-15T17:33:27 KurtB: my heart is making that crazy laughing sound right now! 2009-09-15T17:33:40 Keep the epinephrine handy. 2009-09-15T17:33:52 ErikRose: okay, read the page source for the show-the-request page and the cookies are not there at all 2009-09-15T17:33:58 So same deal? 2009-09-15T17:34:12 ErikRose: as what? 2009-09-15T17:34:19 As you said before. 2009-09-15T17:34:21 yes 2009-09-15T17:34:35 sallyk has quit IRC 2009-09-15T17:34:38 accessing a page via https in apache results in pound losing the cookies, 2009-09-15T17:34:53 accessing it via http in apache, pound lets the cookies through no problem 2009-09-15T17:34:54 So, how did you check what was on the other side of sqiud? 2009-09-15T17:34:57 Well, time to reconfig pound. :-) 2009-09-15T17:35:28 KurtB: There's a config parameter for squid that places all http headers from request and response into the access.log file 2009-09-15T17:35:33 I've been reading them there. 2009-09-15T17:35:33 What's pound's config look like? Does it care about the "http/VirtualHostRoot" whatever in the VHM URLs? 2009-09-15T17:35:54 Yeah... If you just yank pound out completely, and go to a single back end, it works, eh? 2009-09-15T17:36:34 ErikRose: here's the pound.cfg http://pastie.org/618051 2009-09-15T17:37:02 KurtB: if I load balance via apache and take the squid/pound pipeline out, things work fine, and the cookies are showing up in zope. 2009-09-15T17:37:47 I guess technically speaking I am not _certain_ that the headers are passing through squid, but they are there when squid sees a request, and squid purports to leave the request untouched, right? 2009-09-15T17:38:19 I hate this new pastie thing. Little narrow columns. Nested scrollbars. :-P 2009-09-15T17:38:19 that is to say, I have not fired up ethereal and sniffed the packet traffic between squid and pound 2009-09-15T17:38:38 whatever happened to the old paste.plone.org? 2009-09-15T17:39:02 THey got sick of running it. 2009-09-15T17:39:07 I like paste.lisp.org. 2009-09-15T17:39:16 And I like Lisp. :-) 2009-09-15T17:39:38 ErikRose: ahhh, yes. I remember seeing that url before. I'll bookmark it to keep you happy :) 2009-09-15T17:39:46 Yay! :-D 2009-09-15T17:40:01 Which port am I concerned with here, 8991 or 8992? 2009-09-15T17:40:14 At any rate, this looks harmless. Except this: what is xHTTP? 2009-09-15T17:41:29 Looks like a method limiter, ill-documented. 2009-09-15T17:41:35 Probably harmless 2009-09-15T17:42:07 xHTTP is supposed to control what types of HTTP verbs are allowed 2009-09-15T17:42:30 Well, I don't see anything wrong with that, unfortunately. 2009-09-15T17:42:44 How's your Squid conf compare with mine? 2009-09-15T17:42:46 I don't think it has anything to do with it, but I could take it out and see what happens :) 2009-09-15T17:43:23 ErikRose: just a moment and I'll paste it 2009-09-15T17:44:05 netropic has quit IRC 2009-09-15T17:44:33 ErikRose: http://paste.lisp.org/display/87134 2009-09-15T17:45:25 The two pathways through squid that are involved here are acl path_1_2 and acl path_1_3 2009-09-15T17:45:47 And it doesn't work when authorized, right? 2009-09-15T17:45:55 they both pass requests through to the same backend 2009-09-15T17:46:18 which is the 8992 pound listener 2009-09-15T17:46:29 and yes, the https path is the one that is failing 2009-09-15T17:47:48 (although, from the zope perspective both paths are 'authorized' since I'm setting the X_REMOTE_USER header directly in my apache vhost on the :8901 path 2009-09-15T17:48:21 KurtB: did you get the email from Lisa about needing a copy of the invoice from your visit marked 'paid'? 2009-09-15T17:49:21 cewing: No. I'll look in my spam filter, tho. 2009-09-15T17:49:22 simmerdesigns has quit IRC 2009-09-15T17:49:31 Squid confs are hard to read. 2009-09-15T17:51:27 no freakin' kidding 2009-09-15T17:51:34 taraemily has left #weblion 2009-09-15T17:51:40 My brain is too tired to untangle this tonight, I'm afraid. 2009-09-15T17:51:54 I've been working on it all day. I know what you mean 2009-09-15T17:52:22 I'm going to try packet-sniffing between squid and pound to make 100% sure which is responsible for the problem 2009-09-15T17:52:23 cewing: I have to go feed the herd. Maybe we can talk about this tonight? 2009-09-15T17:52:44 KurtB: sure. After I put the kids down I'll be jumping back online. 2009-09-15T17:52:59 KurtB: enjoy the feeding :) 2009-09-15T17:53:08 But, we can test a couple of things tonight to be for sure if its a pound problem. 2009-09-15T17:53:48 KurtB: cool! 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Please delete it...) closed 2009-09-15T22:32:59 mikehalm has quit IRC 2009-09-15T22:33:00 webliontickets: Ticket #1427 (Page not found error on custom content type when adding above/below ...) updated 2009-09-15T22:42:41 esteele has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T22:42:41 ChanServ sets mode: +o esteele 2009-09-15T22:52:59 ErikRose_ has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T22:57:45 RobZoneNet has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T22:57:45 ChanServ sets mode: +o RobZoneNet 2009-09-15T23:04:28 cewing has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T23:07:52 cewing has quit IRC 2009-09-15T23:10:05 cewing has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T23:14:14 webliontickets: Ticket #1424 (@@manage-portlets(above|below)content link inconsistent on default pages.) updated | Changeset [8605]: Removed debugging print statement. 2009-09-15T23:16:06 cewing has quit IRC 2009-09-15T23:17:28 cewing has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T23:30:17 webliontickets: Ticket #534 (Figure out Plone upgrade strategy) updated 2009-09-15T23:33:48 ErikRose_ has quit IRC 2009-09-15T23:34:18 webliontickets: Ticket #1436 (change whatever is preventing anon users to view site) closed 2009-09-15T23:57:34 DigitalD has joined #weblion 2009-09-15T23:58:50 DigitalD has quit IRC