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2009-08-13T08:24:52  <cah190> Hey esteele, do you know of any good reason that I shouldn't be able to make FSD 2.x a dependency of my extender product?
2009-08-13T08:25:10  <esteele> None that I can think of.
2009-08-13T08:25:56  <cah190> On a fresh site I get this: http://pastie.org/582558 when installing my product.  It looks like there is something wrong in the FSD GS profile, yet it installs just fine if I install FSD directly.
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2009-08-13T08:32:55  <esteele> cah190: It looks like there are a few type definitions that don't have default_view. Try adding those and see if it works.
2009-08-13T08:33:26  <cah190> In FSD?
2009-08-13T08:33:42  <cah190> Because my product has no types, so it has to be importing the FSD ones at that point.
2009-08-13T08:33:48  <esteele> Right.
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2009-08-13T08:34:09  <cah190> And FSDPerson definitely has a default_view.  I think it's throwing a fit because it's not supposed to?
2009-08-13T08:34:13  <esteele> No idea why it works normally.
2009-08-13T08:34:37  <cah190> Ah, yeah, if I remove the default_view it imports FSDPerson then fails on another type.
2009-08-13T08:34:46  <krd111> does anyone have any time to meet with me before the partners meeting?  I seem to have zapped my own ability to access  a lot of my site.  I can't even access my site-setup or my own directory listing to see if I somehow un-assinged myself as manager.
2009-08-13T08:36:56  <esteele> cah190: What version of Plone, out of curiosity?
2009-08-13T08:37:15  <cah190> 3.2.3
2009-08-13T08:37:23  * esteele is noting the "it cleared up" reply to https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/ticket/816
2009-08-13T08:37:25  <esteele> Ah.
2009-08-13T08:37:44  <cah190> That's very similar
2009-08-13T08:38:28  <cah190> Aside from the clearing up part.
2009-08-13T08:42:28  <cah190> The difference is probably that I'm just declaring FSD as a GS dependency, so maybe it just can't be installed that way.
2009-08-13T08:48:45  <esteele> krd111: We have a staff meeting before the partners meeting. I'm sure someone could help out afterwards though.
2009-08-13T08:50:30  <esteele> cah190: Maybe default_view can't be used on non dynamic-view FTIs?
2009-08-13T08:51:11  <krd111> esteele: do you mean after the staff meeting or after the partners meeting?
2009-08-13T08:51:21  <esteele> krd111: After the parters meeting.
2009-08-13T08:51:37  <krd111> great -- i'll plan on hanging around after the partners meeting for help, thanks!
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2009-08-13T08:53:04  <cah190> esteele: That's what I'm thinking.  Interestingly, when you install FSD directly, they do end up as Dynamic-view FTIs even though they're not specified as such in the GS profile.
2009-08-13T08:53:14  <esteele> Odd.
2009-08-13T08:54:28  <cah190> While this: http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/195 would lead me to believe declaring dependencies just works in all cases, I'm thinking it much just cause the GS profile to run and not the full install process for the dependency product.
2009-08-13T08:55:06  <cah190> I guess what I'll have to do for the FSD dependency is figure out how to install it via code as per ticket 816.
2009-08-13T08:56:23  <esteele> You've tried removing default_view from FSDPerson.xml?
2009-08-13T08:56:33  <esteele> I'm still thinking this is an FSD bug.
2009-08-13T08:57:54  <cah190> Yeah, if I remove it from FSDPerson.xml I end up with the same problem for the other types.  I haven't gone through and fixed them all.
2009-08-13T08:59:52  <cah190> I'm pretty much convinced there's something not right with the GS profile for FSD, but there's also something strange about the way dependencies are handled by GS, too.  I suspect it runs the profile without running the installer for the product or at least runs the profile first.
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2009-08-13T09:08:25  <cah190> esteele: Installing FSD directly from my extender's Install.py does work just fine, so I'll just run with that.  I'll make a ticket about it not installing correctly as a GS dependency.
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2009-08-13T09:15:17  <esteele|away> cah190: Thanks.
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2009-08-13T09:17:16  <cah190> It's getting to the point where I almost thing we should have a FSD 2.x bug-squashing sprint.  Or maybe just finish 3.  =)
2009-08-13T09:17:26  <cah190> thing -> think
2009-08-13T09:17:56  <esteele> Sure. I'm at the point where I have no time to give to it unless we specifically block out a day or three.
2009-08-13T09:20:31  <cah190> I might be able to devote some time later this month, once I have the bigger issues with our site ironed out.
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2009-08-13T10:18:10  <ErikRose> I want to get the ZopeSkel stuff into 2.x, too.
2009-08-13T10:18:22  <ErikRose> (of FSD, that is)
2009-08-13T10:21:57  <cah190> My exploration into dependencies was partly motivated by having the thought that it might be nice if the ZopeSkel-generated extenders could install an appropriate FSD if it's not already there.
2009-08-13T10:23:45  <ErikRose> Good thought.
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2009-08-13T10:38:57  <ErikRose> esteele: What exactly did you need to know abotu courses?
2009-08-13T10:39:58  <esteele> course lists, instructors, students.
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2009-08-13T11:10:49  <esteele> Grr. WTF is plone_deprecated a registered skins layer?
2009-08-13T11:11:07  <ErikRose> Cuz Customnav uses it. :-D
2009-08-13T11:11:42  * esteele changes the name of the users/groups search control panels to avoid conflicts.
2009-08-13T11:13:02  <esteele> I was hoping to take advantage of the fact that the @@ is optional, but that doesn't work if the old templates are still around.
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2009-08-13T11:24:45  <esteele> pumazi, kevin7kal: Looks like your core commit access has been granted.
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2009-08-13T11:25:07  <pumazi> esteele: michaelmiller as well?
2009-08-13T11:25:13  <pumazi> esteele: thank you.
2009-08-13T11:25:13  <esteele> pumazi: Looking.
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2009-08-13T11:30:26  <esteele> michaelmiller: What's your plone.org username?
2009-08-13T11:30:41  <michaelmiller> miguelitosm
2009-08-13T11:31:06  <esteele> Ah. I wasn't even close. ;)
2009-08-13T11:31:26  <pumazi> ErikRose: science?
2009-08-13T11:31:41  <michaelmiller> :) I probably should change my nick on here
2009-08-13T11:31:49  <esteele> michaelmiller: You've got core commit as well.
2009-08-13T11:31:52  <michaelmiller> less confusion with ucla
2009-08-13T11:31:58  <michaelmiller> thanks esteele :)
2009-08-13T11:34:11  <pumazi> ErikRose: I don't have a user on science.vmhost.psu.edu ... how would I get in to even attempt to fix the problem?
2009-08-13T11:34:37  <ErikRose> dzhandle zopectl plone-site adduser mrm41-admin sOmEPsAsword
2009-08-13T11:34:50  <ErikRose> But I have it running in the fg now, so beware.
2009-08-13T11:34:58  <pumazi> how do I ssh into it though?
2009-08-13T11:35:00  <ErikRose> I was trying to troubleshoot it using VerboseSecurity.
2009-08-13T11:35:14  <pumazi> ic
2009-08-13T11:35:34  <pumazi> ErikRose: btw, the sms to my phone worked
2009-08-13T11:35:47  <ErikRose> Nifty. What went wrong?
2009-08-13T11:35:55  <ErikRose> You can ssh in using your access account; I made you a user.
2009-08-13T11:36:17  <ErikRose> in general, though, worst case, you can always use the VMWare console and use the root password. (Root ssh is disabled.)
2009-08-13T11:36:43  <pumazi> ErikRose: hmm... must have typed my passwd wrong the first time :P
2009-08-13T11:37:09  <ErikRose> You didn't have a user until just now.
2009-08-13T11:37:20  <pumazi> O...
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2009-08-13T11:40:27  <ErikRose> pumazi: You're not messing with it right now, are you?
2009-08-13T11:40:46  <pumazi> no, because you're on the case
2009-08-13T11:40:54  <pumazi> I figure you can tell me about it later
2009-08-13T11:40:55  <ErikRose> k
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2009-08-13T11:42:49  <gil> mikehalm:hola Mike!
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2009-08-13T16:17:15  <tsimkins> cah190:  Cool!  ErikRose had suggested it, and I had been holding off for awhile to let some other brave souls run into issues.  It may be time to give it a shot!
2009-08-13T16:17:19  <esteele> cah190: Well that's enough for me. :)
2009-08-13T16:17:28  <ErikRose> Woo!
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2009-08-13T18:27:43  <SnarfBot> webliontickets: Changeset [8228]: Fixes a bug with iso8601 standard dates. <https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/changeset/8228>
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2009-08-13T22:04:10  <SnarfBot> webliontickets: Changeset [8229]: Adding collective.contentgenerator to the buildout.cfg. <https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/changeset/8229>
2009-08-13T22:18:40  <SnarfBot> webliontickets: Changeset [8230]: Fixed CSS and base_properties for right column link colors. <https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/changeset/8230>
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