2009-08-06T01:51:12 webliontickets: Ticket #1360 (Purchase Soma Online. Order Soma Without Prescription!) created 2009-08-06T02:32:36 mikehalm has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T02:56:02 mikehalm has quit IRC 2009-08-06T04:35:51 bradjoe96 has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T04:35:51 w00t 2009-08-06T04:35:51 sup 2009-08-06T06:11:17 esteele has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T06:11:17 ChanServ sets mode: +o esteele 2009-08-06T06:43:08 esteele has quit IRC 2009-08-06T07:47:13 catherine-w has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T07:59:38 For esteele: re the point about removing the globally available variables. Yeesh. Can see why you want to, but... 2009-08-06T08:00:46 Everyone is going to have to rewrite templates, and many people won't know how 2009-08-06T08:02:41 And if we all have to define these things, each time, we'll end up with all sorts of weird code, all purportedly doing the same thing 2009-08-06T08:03:29 As with viewlets, this could be massively confusing 2009-08-06T08:03:43 paul_r has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T08:04:30 So rather than get rid of these things entirely, why not have some stock code that we can all faculatively pull in? 2009-08-06T08:06:26 At least this would mean that we were all using reasonable code and doing things in a way that other people could recognize 2009-08-06T08:07:36 I'll try to hop back on here this afternoon 2009-08-06T08:07:42 catherine-w has quit IRC 2009-08-06T08:07:51 cthomas has quit IRC 2009-08-06T08:11:46 kevin7kal has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T08:11:46 ChanServ sets mode: +o kevin7kal 2009-08-06T08:18:18 michaelmiller has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T08:18:22 ChanServ sets mode: +o michaelmiller 2009-08-06T08:26:23 esteele has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T08:26:23 ChanServ sets mode: +o esteele 2009-08-06T08:30:11 pumazi has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T08:30:11 ChanServ sets mode: +o pumazi 2009-08-06T08:35:48 webliontickets: Changeset [8173]: Adding the package files. 2009-08-06T08:37:01 jjmojojjmojo has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T09:07:17 _markb1_ has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T09:07:31 _markb1_ is now known as MarkB1 2009-08-06T09:37:15 BHoffman has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T09:45:03 hexsprite_ has quit IRC 2009-08-06T09:52:31 kevin7kal has quit IRC 2009-08-06T09:55:44 kevin7kal has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T09:56:33 ChanServ sets mode: +o kevin7kal 2009-08-06T09:58:12 kevin7kal_ has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T09:58:34 kevin7kal has quit IRC 2009-08-06T09:59:02 cjohansen has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T09:59:02 ChanServ sets mode: +o cjohansen ... 2009-08-06T10:04:51 taraemily has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T10:06:02 pumazi_ has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T10:06:02 ChanServ sets mode: +o pumazi_ 2009-08-06T10:11:07 ErikRose has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T10:11:07 ChanServ sets mode: +o ErikRose 2009-08-06T10:12:44 stuttle has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T10:13:50 ErikRose: Give me a call - sites are down. 2009-08-06T10:14:34 stuttle: On it. 2009-08-06T10:16:25 Funny, everything shows green on my board; all the processes are up. 2009-08-06T10:16:31 Expired certificate 2009-08-06T10:16:55 Hmm, did I forget to put one on my calendar? Apologies if I did. 2009-08-06T10:17:39 Oh! This was a pre-existing one you handed me. We'll need to order another one. In the meantime, I'll issue a CACert. People will get a warning, but it'll work. 2009-08-06T10:18:30 Thanks. That will have to do. 2009-08-06T10:19:21 netropic has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T10:19:28 Takes a couple days to get renewed? 2009-08-06T10:19:37 netropic has quit IRC 2009-08-06T10:21:19 stuttle: A day or two 2009-08-06T10:21:26 I'll rush it as much as I can. 2009-08-06T10:21:37 pumazi has quit IRC 2009-08-06T10:21:41 Should be a one-click confirmation in anything but Firefox in the meantime 2009-08-06T10:22:48 simmerdesigns has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T10:23:11 Does Firefox not work? That's the one we reccomend to all the students. 2009-08-06T10:23:32 It's just has a bigger, scarier warning than the others. Looks a lot like an outright error. 2009-08-06T10:25:59 stuttle: Okay, the temporary cert is in place, and you should be able to log in. 2009-08-06T10:26:33 I'll place the order for the renewal of the real cert; I might need to gather some details from you, since you originally ordered it. Did you go through the vmhost people for that order? 2009-08-06T10:27:04 simmerdesigns has quit IRC 2009-08-06T10:27:06 MarkB1 is now known as MarkB1_crayZ 2009-08-06T10:27:10 Yeah, they handled the whole thing - just included it in the bill. 2009-08-06T10:27:56 netropic has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T10:28:14 ErikRose: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.announce/1463 2009-08-06T10:29:19 Ok - just did the Firefox thing. A couple of screens but we can walk students through it. We'll have to post info to the courses before it rains emails. 2009-08-06T10:34:00 paul_r is now known as paul_r|mtg 2009-08-06T10:34:14 mikehalm has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T10:36:03 esteele: the ticket I just mentioned in the meeting: https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/9079 2009-08-06T10:37:59 pumazi_: If you want help making the fix, let me know. 2009-08-06T10:38:19 We should definitely get you commit access. 2009-08-06T10:38:43 good idea :) 2009-08-06T10:38:55 care to walk me through that process? 2009-08-06T10:38:58 Sure. 2009-08-06T10:39:38 Er, wait. Fixing or getting commit access? 2009-08-06T10:40:20 both :) 2009-08-06T10:40:38 do i get commit access the same way as i did for the collective? 2009-08-06T10:40:58 Basically, though it requires a signed contributor agreement. http://plone.org/foundation/contributing/agreement.pdf/view 2009-08-06T10:42:21 BGaddie has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T10:55:41 stuttle has quit IRC 2009-08-06T10:56:01 hexsprite_ has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T10:56:21 mikehalm has quit IRC 2009-08-06T11:04:27 webliontickets: Changeset [8171]: I need to split the mirror from the client to do a genuine release. This ... 2009-08-06T11:11:51 ErikRose_ has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T11:23:20 ErikRose has quit IRC 2009-08-06T11:26:43 simmerdesigns has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T11:30:16 Who's the founder of this channel? 2009-08-06T11:31:12 your maternal progenitor :) 2009-08-06T11:32:00 I started it, and esteele registered it with ChanServ. 2009-08-06T11:58:21 esteele is now known as esteele|away 2009-08-06T11:58:47 chewtoy1 has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T12:02:54 Hi y'all... I'm looking at the root of a Fac/Staff directory in Plone, and I see the Folder name "Specialties"... I know what it is and I have a slightly different use for it, and I wondered if renaming it to a more semantically pleasing option would break functionality somewhere along the way. Do anyone have advice regarding the renaming of the "Specialties" folder? Thanks! (Billy Toy) 2009-08-06T12:05:49 Hmm got the answer, thanks! 2009-08-06T12:06:03 chewtoy1 has left #weblion 2009-08-06T12:09:45 BHoffman_ has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T12:12:21 ErikRose has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T12:12:21 ChanServ sets mode: +o ErikRose 2009-08-06T12:24:45 BHoffman has quit IRC 2009-08-06T12:28:55 ErikRose_ has quit IRC 2009-08-06T12:39:57 esteele|away is now known as esteele 2009-08-06T12:45:44 catherine-w has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T12:45:59 pumazi_, cjohansen http://blog.twinapex.fi/2009/07/23/xhtml-mobile-profile-transformer-and-cleaner-for-python/ 2009-08-06T12:47:52 Hi esteele - did you see my comment earlier today re global variables? 2009-08-06T12:48:05 catherine-w: No. 2009-08-06T12:48:27 :) logs around 8am 2009-08-06T12:50:08 What do you mean by "stock code"? 2009-08-06T12:50:49 Something we can pull off the shelf 2009-08-06T12:51:31 Can you give an example of what you're looking for? Your metaphors aren't registering. 2009-08-06T12:52:06 * esteele has been rewriting configlet code all day and is not functioning properly. 2009-08-06T12:52:47 E.g. Want to test whether someone's logged in? You used to be able to use isAnon 2009-08-06T12:52:59 Will that still be around? 2009-08-06T12:53:07 context/@@plone_portal_state/anonymous 2009-08-06T12:53:21 Ah, good 2009-08-06T12:53:54 So they're not really going away, then? 2009-08-06T12:54:26 In that link I posted, the list has the new call indented beneath each removed call. 2009-08-06T12:54:45 http://dev.plone.org/plone/browser/Plone/branches/4.0/docs/BACKWARDS_COMPATIBILITY.txt#L125 2009-08-06T12:55:03 So we just need to rewrite all our templates :) 2009-08-06T12:55:08 Right. 2009-08-06T12:55:16 Oh, joy 2009-08-06T12:55:46 Ok, thanks for clarifying. 2009-08-06T12:56:19 Those "new" methods all exist in Plone 3, so there's not a backwards-compatability issue as far as add-ons go. 2009-08-06T12:56:37 But, yeah. There's some rewriting to be done. 2009-08-06T12:56:40 Yeah... 2009-08-06T12:56:53 But at least it's find/replace-able. :| 2009-08-06T12:57:12 And this isn't a final decision yet. 2009-08-06T12:57:23 It's likely going to happen in 5 either way though. 2009-08-06T12:57:31 There has to be work for all those plone consultants to do, eh? :) jk 2009-08-06T12:57:53 jdeluca has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T12:58:30 catherine-w has quit IRC 2009-08-06T12:59:58 I'm curious which, if any, of those variables people are using currently. 2009-08-06T13:00:45 RobZoneNet: Do you use any of those regularly? 2009-08-06T13:01:48 I think "portal" is the only one I've used recently. 2009-08-06T13:02:46 i would need to look at the list again but there were a few "portal" is one. 2009-08-06T13:03:38 Remember, we're not trying to make life difficult for anyone. ;) 2009-08-06T13:03:56 Intentionally. 2009-08-06T13:04:30 it should just be a find and replace 2009-08-06T13:05:43 Right. 2009-08-06T13:08:06 krd111 has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T13:18:51 cewing has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T13:38:18 paul_r|mtg is now known as paul_r 2009-08-06T13:39:24 cewing has quit IRC 2009-08-06T13:45:36 RobZoneNet_ has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T13:54:11 RobZoneNet has quit IRC 2009-08-06T14:04:16 michaelmiller has quit IRC 2009-08-06T14:20:19 RobZoneNet_ is now known as RobZoneNet 2009-08-06T14:20:19 ChanServ sets mode: +o RobZoneNet 2009-08-06T14:30:41 webliontickets: Changeset [8174]: Modified the package to not be Zope2 or Plone dependent, I think. I may ... 2009-08-06T14:34:11 pumazi_ is now known as pumazi 2009-08-06T14:38:27 donfick_ has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T14:45:02 Hi all: I've encountered a weird bug...has anyone else encountered this: When we're editing a page in kupu, and we hit the HTML button in kupu to get into the code, instead of being given the html screen, kupu behaves as if we've selected edit>undo. In other words, clicking on the HTML button un-does everything we've done thus far in the edit mode (such as add pictures, apply styles, etc.). Any ideas? 2009-08-06T14:46:47 Can't say I've run across that one before. 2009-08-06T14:46:54 jdeluca has quit IRC 2009-08-06T14:47:31 I can't even think of where to start looking. :( 2009-08-06T14:47:44 jdeluca has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T14:52:14 cjohansen has quit IRC 2009-08-06T14:56:16 webliontickets: Plone Three Theme Uninstall Profile edited 2009-08-06T14:57:56 jchamm has quit IRC 2009-08-06T14:58:12 jchamm has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T15:00:59 esteele: yeah, and it's quite a problem, because we're going through the process of cleaning up our migrated content, and we have to get into the html of just about every page. Very annoying! 2009-08-06T15:01:19 krd111: Any custom javascript on the site? 2009-08-06T15:03:53 esteele: no, I don't think so. It just started happening when we switched to weblion hosting, so maybe erik rose will have some idea 2009-08-06T15:04:51 Some of their stuff is still owned by nonexistent users due to artifacts of the slinging process and subsequent rename. That's all that's weird that I know of. 2009-08-06T15:05:01 Somebody should probably go take ownership of all that stuff. 2009-08-06T15:05:10 krd111: is it happening the first time you click HTML after a save? 2009-08-06T15:05:29 # 8280 HTML source preview bug with Kupu 1.4.10 and Firefox 3 2009-08-06T15:05:36 Fixed in Kupu 1.4.12 2009-08-06T15:07:11 krd111: Try Safari until you can get an update? 2009-08-06T15:07:52 esteele: thank you so much! we will switch to safari. 2009-08-06T15:09:00 paul_r: no, we haven't saved anything yet when this happens. we're still in edit mode, and might want to switch to html before saving. 2009-08-06T15:09:17 donfick_ has quit IRC 2009-08-06T15:09:33 ok, I have seen weird things happen if you go back and forth between WYSIWYG and HTML without saving inbetween 2009-08-06T15:09:47 might be related to the same bug as esteele pointed out as I'm using firefox 2009-08-06T15:27:45 paul_r: right -- I guess we should be saving between switching. But I'm also going to switch to safari. Thanks! 2009-08-06T15:27:46 webliontickets: Double Product Name created 2009-08-06T15:29:25 ErikRose: I'll put "take ownership" on my to-do list. thanks for the reminder :-) 2009-08-06T15:29:47 :-) 2009-08-06T15:32:17 webliontickets: Ticket #1361 (Take ownership of items owned by nonexistent users) created 2009-08-06T15:36:27 RobZoneNet_ has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T15:38:31 pumazi_ has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T15:38:31 ChanServ sets mode: +o pumazi_ 2009-08-06T15:39:06 pumazi has quit IRC 2009-08-06T15:39:21 pumazi_ is now known as pumazi 2009-08-06T15:40:01 Here's a something neat we can file under "fun hack of the day". We got a little Iomega NAS (mirrored 1TB drives) and it runs a version of Linux on an ARM processor. It's pretty trivial to get an SSH session running, and that about triples the value of the gadget. http://www.krausam.de/?p=33 2009-08-06T15:50:59 chewtoy1 has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T15:51:11 RobZoneNet has quit IRC 2009-08-06T15:58:02 sallyk has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T15:58:25 pumazi: ping 2009-08-06T15:58:36 sallyk: pong? 2009-08-06T15:58:47 sallyk: what's up? 2009-08-06T15:59:06 pumazi: hey there - did you ever get hector and figure out about collective.jaop vs collective.opensearch? 2009-08-06T15:59:27 pumazi: and did you have a nice vacation? :) 2009-08-06T15:59:41 sallyk: no, it slipped my mind actually 2009-08-06T15:59:54 sallyk: I sure did :) 2009-08-06T16:01:06 sallyk: I'll send an email out and copy you on it 2009-08-06T16:01:58 pumazi: excellent! how do you want to proceed on the hector front - i can help if it would be helpful but don't want to confuse things 2009-08-06T16:02:07 sallyk: also, since you are here... I've invited Chelsea to come to state college next week, where we will be sprinting on the AtomPub project 2009-08-06T16:02:12 pumazi: ah ok sounds good 2009-08-06T16:02:19 pumazi: oh cool! 2009-08-06T16:02:34 pumazi: i was gonna ask how things are going!? 2009-08-06T16:03:06 pumazi: been reading the wiki page and glancing at code 2009-08-06T16:03:23 sallyk: I'll be sending an update on some things web services related to the list tomorrow afternoon 2009-08-06T16:03:27 did you decide to do a wsgi component after all? 2009-08-06T16:03:35 yes 2009-08-06T16:04:23 great about the update - maybe you could say a word about how it will play with existing plone sites that are not wsgi-fied? 2009-08-06T16:06:02 pumazi: did the json version of wsapi4plone get put on the back burner for now? 2009-08-06T16:06:49 sallyk: yes 2009-08-06T16:07:12 pumazi: understandable, lots of stuff going on - i still think it's a good idea tho 2009-08-06T16:07:26 I've actually tried not to touch it much, so that I can do a decent 0.1 release 2009-08-06T16:07:49 then perhaps do json in the 0.2 release? 2009-08-06T16:08:11 pumazi: sounds like a good plan 2009-08-06T16:09:42 sallyk: I've been working on collective.contentrules.wsapi4plone also 2009-08-06T16:09:48 which will be part of my update 2009-08-06T16:11:26 pumazi: cool - this is to do with the one-plone-site-updates-another idea? 2009-08-06T16:11:40 yep 2009-08-06T16:12:11 pumazi: are any of those potential use cases in production, or close to it? 2009-08-06T16:12:20 for cross site comm i mean 2009-08-06T16:12:24 and a related product in our repository is contentrules_action_queue that will queue the actions and trigger them all at once 2009-08-06T16:12:38 sallyk: i think so 2009-08-06T16:12:46 I hope so anyways :P 2009-08-06T16:13:11 :) you just write the code somebody else worries about deployment eh? 2009-08-06T16:13:39 pretty much :P 2009-08-06T16:14:10 that might change though as I get more involved in our hosting solution 2009-08-06T16:15:08 * pumazi really should blog about this stuff 2009-08-06T16:16:19 pumazi: as a matter of fact i'm working on a blog post on this stuff myself - i'll preview it with you 2009-08-06T16:16:26 probably at the end of today 2009-08-06T16:17:12 pumazi: will probably do a high level thing first then follow up with details on various sub topics 2009-08-06T16:17:13 sallyk: cool, send me an email 2009-08-06T16:17:32 one being CMIS - was just looking at their progress, have you kept track at all? 2009-08-06T16:17:44 nope 2009-08-06T16:18:08 there is actually an apache incubator project and a drupal-alfresco integration 2009-08-06T16:18:14 among other progress 2009-08-06T16:18:28 hmm... ic 2009-08-06T16:18:54 pumazi: yes i'll send you email - and let me know if there is any particular message you want me to relate about wsapi4plone stuff 2009-08-06T16:20:04 ok 2009-08-06T16:20:41 I'm headed out for the day, but I'll check my email when I get home 2009-08-06T16:20:49 thanks sallyk 2009-08-06T16:21:01 pumazi: cool, talk to you soon - thank you! 2009-08-06T16:21:48 pumazi has quit IRC 2009-08-06T16:22:25 jjmojojjmojo has quit IRC 2009-08-06T16:25:02 jdeluca has quit IRC 2009-08-06T16:28:24 kevin7kal_ has quit IRC 2009-08-06T16:30:00 webliontickets: Changeset [8175]: added uninstall and document.xml for promo_view 2009-08-06T16:32:34 webliontickets: Changeset [8176]: something 2009-08-06T16:32:52 mmiller_ucla has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T16:34:44 esteele has quit IRC 2009-08-06T16:37:14 krd111 has quit IRC 2009-08-06T16:38:51 mmiller_ucla has quit IRC 2009-08-06T16:46:00 pumazi has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T16:46:00 ChanServ sets mode: +o pumazi 2009-08-06T17:00:24 taraemily has left #weblion 2009-08-06T17:01:32 paul_r has quit IRC 2009-08-06T17:07:19 chewtoy1 has left #weblion 2009-08-06T17:08:19 BHoffman_ has quit IRC 2009-08-06T17:17:41 cbcunc has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T17:45:15 netropic has quit IRC 2009-08-06T17:58:23 ErikRose_ has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T17:59:06 hexsprite_ has quit IRC 2009-08-06T17:59:15 ErikRose has quit IRC 2009-08-06T18:10:58 simmerdesigns has quit IRC 2009-08-06T18:39:23 RobZoneNet has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T18:39:23 ChanServ sets mode: +o RobZoneNet 2009-08-06T18:52:40 mikehalm has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T18:53:20 kevin7kal has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T18:53:20 ChanServ sets mode: +o kevin7kal 2009-08-06T18:55:50 RobZoneNet_ has quit IRC 2009-08-06T19:10:15 catherine-w has joined #weblion 2009-08-06T19:12:09 webliontickets: Changeset [8177]: custom navigation for /student-athlete 2009-08-06T19:15:26 Esteele: re commonly used global variables. Two that come instantly to mind are isAnon and portal_URL 2009-08-06T19:16:16 Bah: iPhone autocorrected that wrongly. 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