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2009-05-18T05:36:06  <WouterVH> Hello, anyone here using virtualhostmonster pointing to a subsite in plone?
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2009-05-18T06:40:44  <WouterVH> Hi Eric, I have a question regarding subsites in Plone
2009-05-18T06:41:01  <WouterVH> I'm looking for usecases where a subsite has its own domainname
2009-05-18T06:41:44  <WouterVH> does weblion uses a plonesite for each website with it own domain?
2009-05-18T06:41:45  <esteele> WouterVH: I haven't done much with subsites. That's more pumazi's domain.
2009-05-18T06:42:11  <esteele> WouterVH: Yes, they're all separate sites.
2009-05-18T06:42:20  <esteele> Actaully, all on different VMs.
2009-05-18T06:42:21  <WouterVH> how much plonesites does wqeblion maintain?
2009-05-18T06:42:52  <esteele> Well, we just started our hosting service recently. I think we're at around 6 right now.
2009-05-18T06:43:14  <esteele> There are more that are hosted by our partners themselves.
2009-05-18T06:44:49  <WouterVH> ok, my collegue Peter Jacobs will attend the symposium,  I'm sure he 'll bug you with more questions about this :)
2009-05-18T06:44:51  <WouterVH> thanks
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2009-05-18T06:45:21  <esteele> Sure. I think Erik's giving a talk about his setup, so make sure he attends that.
2009-05-18T06:45:22  <esteele> Bah.
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2009-05-18T09:14:52  <stuttle> Good morning. Happy Monday.
2009-05-18T09:16:06  <stuttle> I'm trying to copy/paste a Plone site. I'm getting "AttributeError:kupu_captioned_image" when I try to do the paste. Any suggestions?
2009-05-18T09:20:27  <esteele_> stuttle: I don't recall if that was the same issue we ran into earlier (with which partner?), but the solution was simple, yet annoying... :P
2009-05-18T09:20:57  <esteele_> Basically, you have to export the plone site, rename it (to make it the "new" site), and import the old one.
2009-05-18T09:21:08  <esteele_> There's some Zope bug that causes that.
2009-05-18T09:22:16  <stuttle> OK - I'll try that. I have several sites and copy/paste is working with others, just not the one I want.
2009-05-18T09:22:27  <esteele_> Oh. Interesting.
2009-05-18T09:22:53  <stuttle> Might there be some clean up I need to do? I've rebuilt the catalog--
2009-05-18T09:24:17  <stuttle> I feel like I had an issue with kupu-captioned_image before but not with copy paste. Can;t remember what I did then.
2009-05-18T09:25:51  <esteele_> Looks like this is the corresponding ticket. http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/8463
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2009-05-18T09:59:08  <SnarfBot> webliontickets: Changeset [7718]: Moved condition in templates, closes ticket #1003 <https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/changeset/7718>
2009-05-18T10:06:48  <SnarfBot> webliontickets: Ticket #1003 (Move condition from a to p tag) closed <https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/ticket/1003#comment:1>
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2009-05-18T10:21:32  <cmore>  If I were to upload a javascript file to a folder within Plone, how do I reference that file from a static text portlet? obviously /javascript/foo.js/view won't work, and at_download/file probably isn't right.
2009-05-18T10:22:09  <cmore> this is for a one-off test on a feature for a development site
2009-05-18T10:22:49  <catherine-w> cmore: stick the js file in your product or in the custom folder
2009-05-18T10:22:57  <catherine-w> cmore: then register it with the js_registry
2009-05-18T10:24:47  <cmore> ok, we'll do. is it even possible to do it through through Plone without going into the ZMI?
2009-05-18T10:25:45  <catherine-w> hmm. Don't know. What's the use case?
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2009-05-18T10:27:17  <cmore> catherine-w: just testing a possible JS program to display some non-crucial content and wanted to see what it would look like before putting it into the ZMI.
2009-05-18T10:29:46  <catherine-w> cmore: I'd stick the thing in the custom folder, register it and see how that works
2009-05-18T10:29:58  <cmore> catherine-w: will do. thanks
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2009-05-18T10:38:08  <catherine-w> michaelmiller: https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/browser/worldCampus/WCImporter/trunk/skins/wcimporter_templates/WCImporterHandler.pt
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2009-05-18T11:15:37  <catherine-w> Has anyone succeeded in getting warning or info messages (portal status messages) to appear for portlet manager templates?
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2009-05-18T11:17:31  <SnarfBot> webliontickets: Ticket #1091 (Add an XML declaration to browserlayer.xml) closed <https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/ticket/1091#comment:1> | Changeset [7719]: fixes #1091 <https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/changeset/7719>
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2009-05-18T11:40:19  <BHoffman> Hi all. Does anyone have any idea why working copy support, once installed, would only show up on a couple of root folders?
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2009-05-18T13:16:09  <esteele> :D "RE: including Eric Steele in this call...timezones become even more of a challenge (our normal meeting time is 4 a.m. in Pennsylvania). 7a.m. West Coast US / 10a.m. East Coast / 4p.m. Europe / 10p.m. Perth might work, except Limi doesn't want to get up that early."
2009-05-18T13:16:22  <esteele> Oh, ok. I'll just get up at 4 then.
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2009-05-18T13:31:11  <esteele> FWIW, for those wondering, current hopeful schedule for Plone 4 is October. Plone 5 (or something) mid 2010.
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2009-05-18T13:34:33  <RobZoneNet> nice
2009-05-18T13:41:06  <mmols> any overhaul of the theming system in that?
2009-05-18T13:43:00  <esteele> mmols: In 5, yes.
2009-05-18T13:43:06  <esteele> Blocks/deco.
2009-05-18T13:43:23  <esteele> It won't be ready in time for 4.
2009-05-18T13:43:39  <mmols> nooooo!
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2009-05-18T13:45:14  <esteele> Look at it this way... 5 was coming out at the same point in time no matter what it was called. There's just a less breaky-your-sitey release in between now. :)
2009-05-18T13:46:53  <mmols> I'm making my portfolio in Plone, and for now am just using CSSManager to make my life easier. Thinking I need to delve deeper but kinda dreading it because I've heard its quite complicated
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2009-05-18T14:05:34  <bpanulla> Hey... I seem to remember that you can alias Type names in Plone.... e.g. Create a subclass of Folder called MyFolder. Where do you do that?
2009-05-18T14:05:50  <bpanulla> Somewhere in the ZMI?
2009-05-18T14:06:13  <esteele> bpanulla: portal_types
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2009-05-18T14:07:37  <bpanulla> I thought so.... what do you do once there? Copy and paste a type, or is it something on the properties page of the type in question?
2009-05-18T14:07:50  <ErikRose> Yep, copy and paste, and change the title.
2009-05-18T14:07:51  <catherine-w> bpanulla: copy paste
2009-05-18T14:08:33  <bpanulla> hoho! Lovely. Thanks
2009-05-18T14:10:28  <catherine-w> bpanulla: copy paste, rename and change the title
2009-05-18T14:10:59  <mmols> copy pasta!
2009-05-18T14:11:07  <bpanulla> Okay, now to see if this worked....
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2009-05-18T14:14:55  * bpanulla does little dance
2009-05-18T14:15:48  <ErikRose> Could somebody help me test my shiny new streaming server? rtsp://weblion.psu.edu/handsomedevil.sdp
2009-05-18T14:16:08  <bpanulla> Testing
2009-05-18T14:16:13  <bpanulla> You using DSS?
2009-05-18T14:16:17  <ErikRose> yip
2009-05-18T14:16:21  <bpanulla> I C U
2009-05-18T14:16:23  <ErikRose> Pretty easy.
2009-05-18T14:16:25  <ErikRose> Spiffy!
2009-05-18T14:16:56  <ErikRose> What's a simple version of ntop that's probably on my box?
2009-05-18T14:16:57  <bpanulla> Cool
2009-05-18T14:17:07  <lynnp08> esteele:  I just tried to upgrade my FSD and membrane in the "add and install products" section of my local copy of my site on my laptop and I got this error http://paste.plone.org/28046
2009-05-18T14:17:34  <bpanulla> say something ErikROse
2009-05-18T14:17:37  <bpanulla> is there sound too?
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2009-05-18T14:18:12  <bpanulla> cool... audio is muddy but there
2009-05-18T14:18:17  <RobZoneNet> i see you erik
2009-05-18T14:19:00  <lynnp08> esteele:  I was going from membrane1.1b3 to 1.1b5
2009-05-18T14:19:43  <lynnp08> esteele:  And FSD 2.1 to 2.1.1.2
2009-05-18T14:21:17  <lynnp08> catherine-w:  I got the p4a calendar off of my production site today.  YEA!
2009-05-18T14:21:27  <catherine-w> Hoorah! Well done:)
2009-05-18T14:21:45  <esteele> lynnp08: Looks like it's a membrane issue.
2009-05-18T14:21:45  * ErikRose throws confetti.
2009-05-18T14:22:46  <lynnp08> esteele: I tried to update FSD first and got that same error.  Then I tried membrane.
2009-05-18T14:23:08  <esteele> Right. FSD installs membrane as a dependency.
2009-05-18T14:23:42  <esteele> lynnp08: Try an uninstall/reinstall of membrane instead of the reinstall, maybe?
2009-05-18T14:23:50  <lynnp08> ok, trying that now
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2009-05-18T14:24:40  <ErikRose> michaelmiller: Streaming is working. Let me just get passwords figured out, and then you can do whatever you like with it.
2009-05-18T14:26:06  <lynnp08> oops, another error when I hit uninstall.  Hang on, let me put it in paste.plone.org
2009-05-18T14:26:08  <michaelmiller> yay! thx ErikRose
2009-05-18T14:26:17  <ErikRose> my pleasure
2009-05-18T14:26:23  <ErikRose> Wasn't bad at all
2009-05-18T14:27:24  <lynnp08> esteele: http://paste.plone.org/28047
2009-05-18T14:28:08  <lynnp08> More news:  system admins have squid running.  I need to send them Eric's presentation from last Friday.
2009-05-18T14:28:44  <ErikRose> Or Erik's :-)
2009-05-18T14:30:36  <lynnp08> Yea, Erik's!  Sorry about that.  You can call me "Lynne" with an "e" ONCE to get even.  heh heh
2009-05-18T14:30:44  <ErikRose> hehe
2009-05-18T14:30:51  <lynnp08> Don't see it on our site Erik.  Will it be there.
2009-05-18T14:30:59  <lynnp08> Will it be there?
2009-05-18T14:31:03  <ErikRose> That's a question for Luke or michaelmiller
2009-05-18T14:31:17  <ErikRose> I can say that our streaming should work next time. :-)
2009-05-18T14:32:01  <catherine-w> lynnp08: luke hasn't had a chance to post it yet
2009-05-18T14:32:16  <catherine-w> Wonder if there's some written documentation you can refer to instead
2009-05-18T14:32:34  <lynnp08> I assume Luke is the person doing the webcasts.  Is he with Weblion?  Haven't met him officially yet.
2009-05-18T14:32:50  <esteele> lynnp08: Is there a 'membrane_tool' in the zmi?
2009-05-18T14:33:04  <lynnp08> esteele:  let me look
2009-05-18T14:34:18  <lynnp08> esteele:  I don't see one in the main part of the site.  I do see an FSD tool.
2009-05-18T14:34:45  <ErikRose> lynnp08: https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/wiki/SquidCaching
2009-05-18T14:36:34  <lynnp08> esteele:  nope, don't see a membrane_tool unless it's hidden under another directory.  I see simplealias_tool, formgen_tool, etc. but no membrane_tool
2009-05-18T14:36:35  <SnarfBot> webliontickets: Squid Caching edited <https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/wiki/SquidCaching?version=11>
2009-05-18T14:36:43  <lynnp08> thank you EriK
2009-05-18T14:36:47  <ErikRose> no seat
2009-05-18T14:36:49  <ErikRose> w
2009-05-18T14:37:11  <ErikRose> Watching yourself on a 12-second delay is a good way to rid yourself of annoying tics.
2009-05-18T14:37:42  <catherine-w> OK, any ideas about how we can get the template for a portlet manager to see if it is being rendered on a default page for a folder?
2009-05-18T14:38:44  <esteele> catherine-w: I think there's an isDefaultPage somewhere....
2009-05-18T14:39:00  <lynnp08> ErikRose:  I guess I'm looking more for a CacheFu setup to figure out what things to set up in CacheFu when running Squid (like you showed us on Friday).  I will search for a CacheFu page.
2009-05-18T14:39:09  <ErikRose> You will find one. :-)
2009-05-18T14:39:32  <catherine-w> esteele: yes, thanks, found that a while ago... just having problems calling it into the template...
2009-05-18T14:39:47  <catherine-w> esteele: the template is a template being rendered inside a viewlet
2009-05-18T14:40:16  <lynnp08> actually I didn't.  Looking again.
2009-05-18T14:40:16  <esteele> lynnp08: Ok. Let's try this... Go to portal_setup, import, find the membrane install profile, and run just the membrane tool step.
2009-05-18T14:40:51  <catherine-w> esteele: this is ContentWellPortlets: we're trying to stick a warning message on if someone tries to add content well portlets on a default page... to alert them to the fact that they may want to add them on the container instead
2009-05-18T14:40:54  <esteele> catherine-w: You've tossed view/context at it?
2009-05-18T14:41:12  <catherine-w> esteele: whaddya mean?
2009-05-18T14:41:34  <catherine-w> (at what?)
2009-05-18T14:41:36  <esteele> catherine-w: Paste your code somewhere?
2009-05-18T14:41:42  <lynnp08> Weird.  A search on CacheFu didn't turn up anything useful.  A search on cache fu did.
2009-05-18T14:42:03  <lynnp08> esteele:  Ok, trying
2009-05-18T14:42:49  <ErikRose> @wiki CacheFu
2009-05-18T14:42:49  <SnarfBot> ErikRose: https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/wiki/CacheFu
2009-05-18T14:42:53  <ErikRose> …is what I recommend
2009-05-18T14:42:54  <catherine-w> esteele: https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/browser/weblion/Products.ContentWellPortlets/trunk/Products/ContentWellPortlets/browser/templates/manageportletsabove.pt is one of the templates that calls the appropriate portlet managers
2009-05-18T14:43:28  <lynnp08> esteele:  Ok, I have the membrane_tool now.  Should I try an uninstall and reinstall of membrane again?
2009-05-18T14:43:57  <lynnp08> yes ErikRose.  on our wiki
2009-05-18T14:44:10  <esteele> lynnp08: Yes.
2009-05-18T14:45:42  <catherine-w> esteele: so the portlets are rendered inside a viewlet
2009-05-18T14:46:24  <lynnp08> esteele:  Ok, got membrane to install.  Still no luck upgrading FSD.  Should I uninstall and reinstall that also?
2009-05-18T14:46:32  <esteele> catherine-w: So, in viewlets.py, you've got context_state defined...
2009-05-18T14:46:37  <catherine-w> yep
2009-05-18T14:47:11  <esteele> That's what you'll want to call isDefaultPageInFolder() on.
2009-05-18T14:47:43  <esteele> So self.defaultPage = context_state.isDefaultPageInFolder() and then your template can reference view/defaultPage.
2009-05-18T14:48:08  <catherine-w> esteele: tried, that, but using isDefaultPage....
2009-05-18T14:48:15  <catherine-w> lemme try the thing you suggest
2009-05-18T14:50:31  <esteele> lynnp08: Sure.
2009-05-18T14:53:29  <lynnp08> NOOOOOO  p4a error?  WHAAA?   Here's the error:  http://paste.plone.org/28048
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2009-05-18T14:56:03  <esteele> lynnp08: I think we've reached the point where we need to have a one-on-one to fix this. :|
2009-05-18T14:57:05  <lynnp08> ok.  :-/    You available anytime tomorrow?  It's just my local machine, but I suspect, when I try to update my production server, I will hit the same issue.
2009-05-18T14:57:25  <esteele> lynnp08: Unfortunately, I'm off campus until Wednesday.
2009-05-18T14:57:39  <catherine-w> esteele: no, still the same problem, which is an AttributeError ... wonder if we are importing isDefaultPage from the same place... found 2 things with that name in the same file (plone.app.layout.navigation.defaultpage)
2009-05-18T14:57:49  <ErikRose> http://weblion.psu.edu/handsome-devil
2009-05-18T14:58:12  <lynnp08> Ok, Wed?  My day is pretty much open.
2009-05-18T14:58:43  <esteele> lynnp08: How about 9?
2009-05-18T14:58:54  <esteele> catherine-w: Yes, but that's not what we're trying to call.
2009-05-18T14:58:59  <lynnp08> esteele:  That works.  I'll be down there at 9.
2009-05-18T14:59:04  <esteele> We're after the @@plone view.
2009-05-18T14:59:44  <catherine-w> esteele: please can I book you in for a series of talks at the Plone users group to explain Zope3-type views
2009-05-18T15:01:05  <esteele> catherine-w: I guess. I'm not sure I've got much to teach.
2009-05-18T15:01:14  <catherine-w> esteele: never assume :)
2009-05-18T15:02:14  <catherine-w> esteele: I am not clear what you mean by "we're after the @@plone view"
2009-05-18T15:02:40  <catherine-w> (What do you mean "after"?)
2009-05-18T15:03:20  <esteele> catherine-w: Whoops. You're right. @@plone's isDefaultPageInFolder() is calling context_state's is_default_page()
2009-05-18T15:03:37  <catherine-w> OK
2009-05-18T15:03:54  <catherine-w> I hadn
2009-05-18T15:04:04  <catherine-w> I hadn't found an isDefaultPageInFolder, for sure
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2009-05-18T15:09:06  <RobZoneNet> http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x12565_beatbox
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2009-05-18T15:12:42  <ErikRose> Nice analogies for computer parts: http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1236733&cid=27995707
2009-05-18T15:13:14  <rwellar> Nice, I usually try to use cars and car parts
2009-05-18T15:14:08  <ErikRose> I usually use desks and filing cabinets.
2009-05-18T15:15:15  <rwellar> I like to threaten to replace computers with filing cabinets and typewriters for my "special" users :)
2009-05-18T15:15:28  <RobZoneNet> lol
2009-05-18T15:18:06  <SnarfBot> webliontickets: Web Services Api Plone edited <https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/wiki/WebServicesApiPlone?version=35>
2009-05-18T15:25:56  <ErikRose> kevin7kal: rtsp://weblion.psu.edu/handsomedevil.sdp
2009-05-18T15:27:05  <ErikRose> It's the Erik Blowing His Nose channel, brought to you by Scott.
2009-05-18T15:27:51  <ErikRose> VLC crashed for me.
2009-05-18T15:28:17  <ErikRose> THere, got it.
2009-05-18T15:28:23  <ErikRose> Don't put the URL in the wrong field. :-)
2009-05-18T15:29:49  <mmols> i would open it in Windows Media Player
2009-05-18T15:29:56  <mmols> but it seems they got rid of control+l to open locations
2009-05-18T15:30:00  <mmols> and im lost in Windows 7
2009-05-18T15:30:03  <mmols> Hooray microsoft!
2009-05-18T15:30:26  <ErikRose> It's the thought that counts. :-)
2009-05-18T15:31:59  <mmols> Its sad, because I love everything else about the release candidate
2009-05-18T15:33:18  <mmols> Hooray for VLC
2009-05-18T15:33:28  <mmols> Quality looks good
2009-05-18T15:34:30  <bpanulla> Anyone know how Zope and Apache define MIME types of files? I need to map an extension to a paritcular MIME type and don't know who I should start with
2009-05-18T15:34:38  <ErikRose> mikehalm: You did send it.
2009-05-18T15:34:41  <DigitalD> ErikRose, mmols: if you like Media Player, try Media Player Classic.
2009-05-18T15:34:42  <ErikRose> Mail just won't show it to me.
2009-05-18T15:34:45  <bpanulla> the file is uploaded as type "file" to a Plone site
2009-05-18T15:34:55  <ErikRose> mmols: Rah rah!
2009-05-18T15:35:04  <mmols> buffer fail
2009-05-18T15:35:05  <DigitalD> bpanulla: mimetypes_registry
2009-05-18T15:35:14  <ErikRose> I'll have to try a bigger rez. We'll need it to see text onscreen during presentations.
2009-05-18T15:35:17  <mmols> it loads the video for like a second
2009-05-18T15:35:22  <mmols> and then freezes
2009-05-18T15:35:49  <mmols> that could just be Concast filtering my data illegally, but who knows!
2009-05-18T15:36:07  <bpanulla> Thanks DigitalID I think that was exactly what I was looking for
2009-05-18T15:37:10  <mmols> DigitalD: Yah i have used Media Player Classic. It works well. Especially for realplayer formats
2009-05-18T15:38:05  <ErikRose> It's timing out for mikehalm
2009-05-18T15:38:24  <mmols> yah its definitely timing out now
2009-05-18T15:38:29  <ErikRose> I'm going to stop it and restart with a larger size.
2009-05-18T15:41:20  <mikehalm> ErikRose: did you get the PDF?
2009-05-18T15:41:43  <ErikRose> mikehalm: You sent it just fine, as it turns out, but Mail randomly doesn't show me attachments. :-P
2009-05-18T15:42:14  * ErikRose screws with the video settings again.
2009-05-18T15:44:38  <ErikRose> mikehalm: Can you try the stream again? rtsp://weblion.psu.edu/handsomedevil.sdp
2009-05-18T15:44:42  <ErikRose> I loosened up the firewall.
2009-05-18T15:44:52  <ErikRose> In case you  were getting a UDP port that it wasn't happy about or something
2009-05-18T15:45:04  <mikehalm> ErikRose: sure
2009-05-18T15:45:34  <mikehalm> ErikRose: same story
2009-05-18T15:45:37  <ErikRose> huh
2009-05-18T15:45:41  <ErikRose> Are you on wireless?
2009-05-18T15:45:59  <mikehalm> yes
2009-05-18T15:46:12  <mikehalm> need the wire?
2009-05-18T15:46:24  <ErikRose> Shouldn't.
2009-05-18T15:46:30  <mikehalm> let me try that
2009-05-18T15:46:35  <ErikRose> But maybe you didn't have enough bandwidth on the wireless.
2009-05-18T15:46:40  <ErikRose> Though it should only be 30K/s.
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2009-05-18T15:48:28  <mikehalm_> what version of the QT player are you using?
2009-05-18T15:48:34  <mikehalm_> still not connecting
2009-05-18T15:48:38  <ErikRose> 7.6
2009-05-18T15:48:47  <ErikRose> You could try VLC if you have it.
2009-05-18T15:48:52  <mikehalm_> OK that is what I am using too.
2009-05-18T15:49:05  <ErikRose> It'll be interesting to see if anybody else has this problem.
2009-05-18T15:49:08  <mikehalm_> I don't have that
2009-05-18T15:49:17  <ErikRose> Okay, don't worry aobut it.
2009-05-18T15:49:43  <RobZoneNet> i am using 7.6 QT pro
2009-05-18T15:49:54  <ErikRose> Well, aren't YOU special. ;-)
2009-05-18T15:49:58  <RobZoneNet> :)
2009-05-18T15:50:05  <RobZoneNet> well it is working for me
2009-05-18T15:50:22  <RobZoneNet> and I may be special
2009-05-18T15:50:57  <mmols> k im streaming now
2009-05-18T15:51:04  <mmols> i see the head bobbing
2009-05-18T15:51:09  <mmols> so i think its working
2009-05-18T15:51:22  <ErikRose> mmols: What changed?
2009-05-18T15:51:30  <mmols> its actually working now
2009-05-18T15:51:37  <mmols> as opposed to showing up for a second and then freezing in a buffer
2009-05-18T15:51:58  <ErikRose> mikehalm: Does rtsp://weblion.psu.edu/sample_300kbit.mov work for you?
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2009-05-18T15:52:28  <mikehalm_> time out again
2009-05-18T15:52:41  <ErikRose> Hrrm.
2009-05-18T15:52:51  <mikehalm_> I am on the wire too
2009-05-18T15:56:38  <mmols> ErikRose: Show me some text, lets see if this thing can display a presentation.
2009-05-18T15:56:46  <mmols> in non-blurry beauty!
2009-05-18T15:57:05  <mmols> i can read the research heading
2009-05-18T15:57:11  <mmols> so i think thats good enough
2009-05-18T15:57:18  <ErikRose> Nicelynicely!
2009-05-18T15:57:35  <mmols> Glad to see ill actually be able to watch this since I will be in MD during the Symposium
2009-05-18T15:57:50  * ErikRose would love to get this working with Penn State accounts.
2009-05-18T15:58:15  <ErikRose> Could I get a few more testers? mikehalm_ doesn't work for some reason, and I want to see if it's just him.
2009-05-18T15:58:25  <ErikRose> rtsp://weblion.psu.edu/handsomedevil.sdp
2009-05-18T15:58:49  <mikehalm_> ErikRose: watch that buddy (-;
2009-05-18T15:58:55  <ErikRose> :-)
2009-05-18T15:59:22  <mmols> i tried it on two computers and a few different internet sources
2009-05-18T15:59:51  <ErikRose> Great job.
2009-05-18T15:59:53  <mikehalm_> ErikRose: look at the RFP... let me know what you think?
2009-05-18T16:00:00  <ErikRose> mikehalm_: Will do.
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2009-05-18T16:01:11  <rwellar> Looks good in Quicktime from here, Real Player crashed, no errors, no nothing.
2009-05-18T16:01:33  <mmols> rwellar: did you expect anything more from real player? :P
2009-05-18T16:02:55  <rwellar> definitely not, and i admit i'm a tad ashamed for having it installed. but we had a faculty member give a talk at the NIH who put out their streams in real media
2009-05-18T16:06:41  <catherine-w> ErikRose: not getting anything here; are you still streaming?
2009-05-18T16:06:53  <ErikRose> catherine-w: Yes. What are you seeing?
2009-05-18T16:07:18  <catherine-w> "Live Broadcast - Paused" (Quicktime over wireless)
2009-05-18T16:07:27  <ErikRose> Crap
2009-05-18T16:08:00  <catherine-w> It does a "waiting for media" for about 10s then a time out message
2009-05-18T16:08:07  <natea> ErikRose: did you see this? http://regebro.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/plone4artistscalendar-2-0a3-released/
2009-05-18T16:08:18  <ErikRose> natea: Nope, but that's great news!
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2009-05-18T16:09:27  <catherine-w> ErikRose: it's doing the same for me as it was for BHoffman (as reported in #plone)
2009-05-18T16:10:08  <catherine-w> Hang, on -- I just fiddled with my firewall to allow all incoming connections, and now it is fine
2009-05-18T16:10:15  <ErikRose> Aha!
2009-05-18T16:10:24  <ErikRose> Funny that's not on by default, on an Apple box.
2009-05-18T16:10:31  <ErikRose> That goes in our FAQ. :-)
2009-05-18T16:10:36  <catherine-w> Super quality!
2009-05-18T16:10:37  <ErikRose> Waiting for confirmation from mikehalm_
2009-05-18T16:11:02  <ErikRose> catherine-w: Great! What exactly did you tweak?
2009-05-18T16:11:13  <ErikRose> I'll pass it along to BHoffman and see if he starts working.
2009-05-18T16:11:44  <ErikRose> I don't know what codec or bitrate we should use, but I'd love to get the transport working, at least.
2009-05-18T16:11:50  <catherine-w> System preferences -> Security-> Firewall tab -> set to "Allow all incoming connections"
2009-05-18T16:12:12  <mmols> well thats probably not the best policy, there might be a way to just allow rtsp
2009-05-18T16:12:20  * catherine-w will try setting for specific applications now
2009-05-18T16:13:12  <catherine-w> Yeah, that works to
2009-05-18T16:13:14  <catherine-w> too
2009-05-18T16:14:27  <catherine-w> System preferences -> Security-> Firewall tab -> click "Set access for specific services and applications", click the + button and choose QuickTime... works
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2009-05-18T16:39:11  * catherine-w wonders how up to date those diagrams in the streamingvideo page are...
2009-05-18T16:39:16  <ErikRose> Beats me
2009-05-18T16:39:53  <catherine-w> Doesn't look like what we drew the other day with michaelmiller and luke
2009-05-18T16:40:16  * catherine-w will check with michaelmiller to see if we need to update the diagrams on that page :)
2009-05-18T16:41:28  <ErikRose> I think I'll start a consultancy called simply "Graft".
2009-05-18T16:41:51  <ErikRose> I'd just love to see that as a sponsor logo for symposia.
2009-05-18T16:41:57  <ErikRose> PSE2009: brought you by Graft
2009-05-18T16:42:00  <ErikRose> to
2009-05-18T16:44:38  <mmols> Those are some crazy diagrams
2009-05-18T16:44:45  <catherine-w> That sounds like a sister organization to BludSwetAnTears
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2009-05-18T16:59:50  <pumazi> ErikRose: might want to wipe off the lens after that ;)
2009-05-18T17:00:25  <ErikRose> Did I get yawn juice on it? :-)
2009-05-18T17:01:04  <pumazi> sneezed, hehe
2009-05-18T17:01:16  <ErikRose> Boy, how delayed is your feed? :-)
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2009-05-18T17:43:18  <catherine-w> Oh, great. We've started getting spam on our symposium training proposal forms.
2009-05-18T17:43:19  <SnarfBot> webliontickets: Ticket #1250 (Update tests) created <https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/ticket/1250>
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2009-05-18T17:44:07  <ErikRose> Well, those should be closed anyway.
2009-05-18T17:45:31  <mib_otlal0> Dumb, dumb, dumb question: I needed to sign up and pay for Tuesday/Wednesday trainings next week seperately from the Symposium training, didn't I?
2009-05-18T17:46:29  <catherine-w> mib_otlal0: the training is Tues / Weds, symposium is Thurs / Fri
2009-05-18T17:46:51  <catherine-w> The registration (and payment) for training is separate from the registration (and payment) for the symposium
2009-05-18T17:46:59  <catherine-w> Does that answer your question?
2009-05-18T17:47:07  <mib_otlal0> Yes.
2009-05-18T17:47:13  <catherine-w> Cool
2009-05-18T17:47:18  <mib_otlal0> So here's my problem:
2009-05-18T17:47:32  <ErikRose> This is close: http://store2.esellerate.net/store/ProductInfo.aspx?StoreIDC=STR3565213409&SkuIDC=SKU9866175290&pc=
2009-05-18T17:47:46  <mib_otlal0> I signed up for the Symposium a while back and am just now looking back for the details.
2009-05-18T17:48:11  <mib_otlal0> I'll be there for Tuesday and Wednesday (flying in from Tennessee), but I haven't signed up for a training yet.
2009-05-18T17:48:31  <catherine-w> There's still time :)
2009-05-18T17:49:13  <mib_otlal0> Can I get with someone tomorrow about getting into the
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2009-05-18T17:49:22  <mib_otlal0> sweet, that's what I needed to know
2009-05-18T17:49:39  <catherine-w> mib_otlal0: did you see the details of the training on offer? http://plone.org/events/regional/plone-symposium-east-2009/training
2009-05-18T17:50:06  <catherine-w> mib_otlal0: sure. cjohansen is the person to contact tomorrow. The registration form will be closed by then, but he may well be able to slot you in
2009-05-18T17:50:09  <mib_otlal0> yeah, just reading it today for the first time
2009-05-18T17:50:26  <mib_otlal0> excellent, that' perfect
2009-05-18T17:51:07  * catherine-w seems to remember that we have to get numbers to the caterers by tomorrow, so at the outside you may not have lunch provided for you, but I expect we'll order a few extra ones just in case of latecomers
2009-05-18T17:54:00  <mib_otlal0> catherine-w: wil cjohansen be in here tomorrow, or should I call or e-mail?
2009-05-18T17:55:35  <catherine-w> mib_otlal0: you could certainly email him:
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2009-05-18T17:59:56  <catherine-w> mib_otlal0: stress not, we'll fit you in :)
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2009-05-18T18:20:21  <dcnoye> ErikRose: http://www.telestream.net/wire-cast/features.htm , the software is called 'Desktop Presenter'
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2009-05-18T18:23:50  <dcnoye> download here: http://dynamic.telestream.net/downloads/login.asp?prodid=wirecast&message=login     Login required; windows and mac client
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