2009-02-10T03:17:28 *** KurtB has quit IRC 2009-02-10T05:02:30 *** mikehalm has quit IRC 2009-02-10T05:15:04 *** esteele has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T05:15:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o esteele 2009-02-10T05:30:37 *** esteele has quit IRC 2009-02-10T05:42:13 *** esteele has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T05:42:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o esteele 2009-02-10T06:15:36 *** esteele has quit IRC 2009-02-10T07:39:58 *** cah190 has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T07:42:27 *** mikehalm has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T07:58:30 *** paul_r has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T07:59:27 *** dcnoye|inBed has quit IRC 2009-02-10T08:18:32 *** BradA has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T08:19:20 *** esteele has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T08:19:20 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o esteele 2009-02-10T08:20:13 *** cthomas has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T08:23:38 *** cjohansen has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T08:23:38 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o cjohansen 2009-02-10T08:29:53 BradA: 2009-02-10T08:30:02 how is it going? 2009-02-10T08:30:15 *** jn_mobile has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T08:31:22 mikehalm: good morning. pretty well, have a tab completely moved over. trying to get p4a.plonevideo to work like i want it to for some embedded videos 2009-02-10T08:32:07 nice... when you get something working let me know 2009-02-10T08:33:04 BradA: if you have success you should put in the wiki so others can benefit 2009-02-10T08:33:53 mikehalm: it's still just on my local workstation. i havent tried to move anything over to the test server yet. i also need to commit everything to svn 2009-02-10T08:34:51 BradA: OK you are on the right path... perhops you could contact dcnoye too he has done some work on video 2009-02-10T08:35:56 mikehalm: ok, i will check with him the next time i see him on. i'm not sure if plonevideo or plonevideoembed will even work. they seem to want to make a new page entirely 2009-02-10T08:35:57 webliontickets: vetextension.rules attached to Ticket #1105 2009-02-10T08:36:29 mikehalm: is there some way i can get more access to the behrend trac page? i can't edit or update any tickets as of now 2009-02-10T08:36:37 also paul_r is working on video implementations too 2009-02-10T08:37:33 BradA: yes... talk to ErikRose he can help you with that.... he usually is in around 10 2009-02-10T08:37:51 *** TitusA has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T08:38:18 BradA: I looked at p4a video and didn't like it cause it creates it's own page. I went with FlashMovie which allows you to upload flash movies and then embed them in a page using kupu 2009-02-10T08:38:57 paul_r: that sounds more like what i want. i'll look into flashmovie. thanks! 2009-02-10T08:39:05 BradA: https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/wiki/EmbeddingFlashUsingKupu 2009-02-10T08:39:33 that has all the gory details of the process 2009-02-10T08:40:07 paul_r: thanks for the networking to help BradA ! 2009-02-10T08:40:13 there is also a product linked at the bottom which should take care of having to edit Field.py 2009-02-10T08:40:28 mikehalm: no prob 2009-02-10T08:41:56 *** jn_mobile has quit IRC 2009-02-10T08:42:25 BradA: what is the official name for Behrend? 2009-02-10T08:42:56 mikehalm: I believe it's "Penn State Erie, The Behrend College" 2009-02-10T08:43:16 BradA: thanks.. blogging about our new partner -; 2009-02-10T08:51:43 *** cah190 has quit IRC 2009-02-10T08:56:33 *** dcnoye has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T08:56:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o dcnoye 2009-02-10T08:57:30 *** jjmojojjmojo has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T09:03:34 good morning all 2009-02-10T09:06:06 good morning cthomas 2009-02-10T09:06:13 morning cthomas! 2009-02-10T09:06:17 How's it going everyone? 2009-02-10T09:06:37 cthomas: just getting over a cold, but good, yourself? 2009-02-10T09:06:44 cthomas: another day, another dollar 2009-02-10T09:07:13 dcnoye..I'm good 2009-02-10T09:07:29 mikehalm....dollar isn't going too far these days is it? 2009-02-10T09:07:59 I'm working through an issue we just discovered with our FSD 2009-02-10T09:08:04 cthomas: definitely 2009-02-10T09:08:25 one of our editors just reported that she can't add anyone 2009-02-10T09:08:33 it throws an error 2009-02-10T09:08:49 I confirmed this 2009-02-10T09:10:02 the initial error that I recieved was "No ruleset with id "people_classifications' 2009-02-10T09:11:19 cthomas: What did you do to break it? ;) 2009-02-10T09:11:36 esteele...I haven't touched it :) 2009-02-10T09:11:39 this time 2009-02-10T09:11:44 Sure, that's what they all say. 2009-02-10T09:11:47 haha 2009-02-10T09:11:51 The first thing we'll need to check is that Relations is still installed. 2009-02-10T09:12:04 OK... 2009-02-10T09:12:09 Then we'll dig into the library to be sure that that ruleset still exists. 2009-02-10T09:12:40 Relations is installed 2009-02-10T09:14:12 where would one go to find this library? 2009-02-10T09:14:28 *** catherine-w has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T09:14:28 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o catherine-w 2009-02-10T09:14:28 It'll be in the site setup, near the bottom. 2009-02-10T09:14:39 Called something like "relations library", I think. 2009-02-10T09:15:21 oh ok...i found 2009-02-10T09:15:46 Let me fire up my fsd instance so I can follow along. 2009-02-10T09:16:17 There should be a listing of rulesets in there. 2009-02-10T09:16:29 And one of those should be "people_classifications". 2009-02-10T09:16:47 OK, i have a folder named "FacultyStaffDirectory" 2009-02-10T09:17:00 in there....a bunch of rulesets 2009-02-10T09:17:20 all this stuff is set to "private" btw 2009-02-10T09:18:02 I don't recall whether or not that matters. 2009-02-10T09:18:35 people classifications is listed here 2009-02-10T09:22:17 It looks like all of mine are private as well. 2009-02-10T09:22:40 *** michaelmiller has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T09:23:22 mikehalm: http://media.plone.org/video/conference/2008/PloneConference2008/ 2009-02-10T09:26:01 *** uninja has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T09:30:36 esteele: I have uninstalled and reinstalled the FSD as well...trying to correct the problem 2009-02-10T09:30:48 cthomas: Ok. That was my next suggestion. :) 2009-02-10T09:31:07 *** kevin7kal_ has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T09:33:40 esteele: thanks 2009-02-10T09:39:31 cthomas: Any luck? 2009-02-10T09:39:42 esteele: no 2009-02-10T09:39:54 Not sure what to think at this point.... 2009-02-10T09:40:16 Hmm.... I seem to recall this coming up recently. Let me dig through the channel logs. 2009-02-10T09:40:33 Ok, I greatly appreciate it! 2009-02-10T09:41:31 There it is... https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/ticket/774 2009-02-10T09:42:38 So I think the final conclusion is that an update of uid_catalog will fix it. 2009-02-10T09:43:13 * esteele can't wait to dump Relations for FSD 3. 2009-02-10T09:45:29 ok 2009-02-10T09:45:51 cthomas: Are you familiar with the process for that? 2009-02-10T09:46:02 Nope, I was just going to ask 2009-02-10T09:46:04 :) 2009-02-10T09:46:11 i'm there... 2009-02-10T09:46:20 Go to the "advanced" tab. 2009-02-10T09:46:25 got it.. 2009-02-10T09:46:26 And click "update". 2009-02-10T09:46:41 done 2009-02-10T09:47:19 michaelmiller: who is the contact at VetSci now? 2009-02-10T09:47:26 I'm testing now.. 2009-02-10T09:47:32 paul_r: Me 2009-02-10T09:47:33 paul_r: rwellar is 2009-02-10T09:47:50 rweller: thanx. I knew your face but not your nick 2009-02-10T09:48:02 are you doing redirects for faculty pages? 2009-02-10T09:48:11 should be 2009-02-10T09:49:07 -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =- 2009-02-10T09:49:17 i'm searching now to see if he is still in the stie 2009-02-10T09:49:24 esteele: no go 2009-02-10T09:49:26 hmm 2009-02-10T09:49:34 found him 2009-02-10T09:49:42 I'm going to change our link to him, but FYI 2009-02-10T09:49:58 now the error states: No workflow provides '${name}' information 2009-02-10T09:50:16 paul_r: yeah, good to know... i think i tested the dynamic links, wonder what's up there 2009-02-10T09:50:52 *** natea has quit IRC 2009-02-10T09:51:02 * esteele grumbles/ 2009-02-10T09:53:30 happy Tuesday...:) 2009-02-10T09:54:35 Ok, let's try the other bit in there... 2009-02-10T09:54:50 "First, we attempted to just reindex the portal_types by going to ZMI->uid_catalog, then the indexes tab, then check "portal_type" and click reindex." 2009-02-10T09:56:10 ok, done 2009-02-10T09:57:30 rwellar: taking a look at the old site in via ftp. It looks like at one point there were pages like that made for all the personnel, looks like they just redirect to the dynamic url 2009-02-10T09:58:05 rwellar: do you have access to the old sever? 2009-02-10T09:58:18 ErikRose: We've got another #774. :( 2009-02-10T09:58:29 esteele: no go.... 2009-02-10T09:58:50 774, you say? 2009-02-10T09:59:06 esteele: does version have anything to do with this? 2009-02-10T09:59:10 Oh, foo. 2009-02-10T09:59:22 cthomas: Could be. Which one are you running? 2009-02-10T09:59:53 2.1a1 2009-02-10T10:00:23 cthomas: Well, bumping it to an actual release couldn't hurt. :) 2009-02-10T10:00:43 i was afraid you'd say that :) 2009-02-10T10:01:02 catherine-w: if I want to find all the faculty associated with VetSci on the Huck site... is there an easy way to do that? 2009-02-10T10:01:03 I don't recall if anything along these lines would be involved in the 2.1a1->2.1 changes. 2009-02-10T10:01:04 esteele: Good catch on DescriptionOfWebLion, btw. Half my point was to quit calling the CMS "WebLion". :-) 2009-02-10T10:01:09 michaelmiller: I don't 2009-02-10T10:01:19 Generates so much confusion. 2009-02-10T10:01:30 ErikRose: Definitely. 2009-02-10T10:02:04 *** KurtB has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T10:02:22 can tsimkins get you access to it? 2009-02-10T10:02:25 paul_r: difficult one. There is no field for "department", and job titles don't necessarily indicate department. 2009-02-10T10:02:38 BradA: What's your Access Account ID? I'll give you Trac privs. Are you bta2? 2009-02-10T10:02:41 *** EPrescott has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T10:02:45 Access to what? 2009-02-10T10:02:48 paul_r: so, no easy way, I don't think 2009-02-10T10:02:49 ErikRose: yes, bta2. thanks! :) 2009-02-10T10:02:56 or i can see if I can make a list of what is there for you 2009-02-10T10:02:59 BradA: I gave you commit access to svn a few weeks ago 2009-02-10T10:03:21 Done. And just so anybody else knows, all you need to do is add partners to the full_citizen group in Trac. 2009-02-10T10:03:23 catherine-w: Can you mark me down for a talk on pinning versions in buildout in 2 weeks? 2009-02-10T10:03:26 ok, I will do some looking 2009-02-10T10:03:32 tsimkins: the old vetsci server...there are a bunch of page redirects that were missed 2009-02-10T10:03:33 catherine-w: I saw, thank you for that. I haven't committed to it yet but I plan to soon. 2009-02-10T10:03:40 * ErikRose catches up on this mornings chat. 2009-02-10T10:03:43 michaelmiller, if it's no trouble, great... otherwise it's ok 2009-02-10T10:03:56 ErikRose: OK, I didn't spot that on the svn admin page on the wiki.... 2009-02-10T10:03:57 michaelmiller: I actually just sent a that list to Tim to maybe have a the rewrite rules adjusted for those pages 2009-02-10T10:04:05 esteele: sure! 2009-02-10T10:04:16 I suppose I'll include default.cfg in there too. 2009-02-10T10:04:36 esteele: that's Feb 27, then 2009-02-10T10:04:46 rweller: can I get a copy of that e-mail as well? 2009-02-10T10:04:50 rwellar: there are 50 to 100 more pages like that in the personnel folder, did you get all of those? 2009-02-10T10:05:07 *** cjj has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T10:05:09 i'll send it to everyone :) 2009-02-10T10:05:21 thanx 2009-02-10T10:05:25 esteele: ping 2009-02-10T10:05:32 paul_r: I guarantee there are other places that that is set up so they should be redirected 2009-02-10T10:05:43 cjj: Hi. What can I do for you? 2009-02-10T10:05:50 esteele: have a happy bday :D 2009-02-10T10:05:57 cjj: Thanks. :) 2009-02-10T10:06:00 michaelmiller: i have 185 in my list 2009-02-10T10:06:03 ok, I figured I would change the URLs if I can find them 2009-02-10T10:06:18 er, 180, sorry 2009-02-10T10:06:59 rwellar: ok, that's good, that probably covers them all...they're the ones that were in either faculty, staff, or student folders inside the personnel directory? 2009-02-10T10:07:16 yep 2009-02-10T10:07:30 nice, than that's probably all the ones I'm seeing 2009-02-10T10:07:46 rwellar: any progress with moving the ext stuff? 2009-02-10T10:08:32 catherine-w: It's a Trac thing, not an svn thing. 2009-02-10T10:08:53 Feel free to add a link to some instructions about Trac if you think it's necessary. 2009-02-10T10:08:55 michaelmiller: newsletters are moving now, resources is next up i think 2009-02-10T10:08:58 ErikRose: yes, I was just wondering if I could add something to that page 2009-02-10T10:09:09 good idea paul_r 2009-02-10T10:09:22 rwellar: Or you could use a ticket. :-) 2009-02-10T10:09:33 ooo tickets 2009-02-10T10:09:38 (Rather than email. Sorry, I'm still catching up. :-)) 2009-02-10T10:10:01 * esteele nominates http://melloware.com/images/iphone-main.jpg for UI of the day. 2009-02-10T10:10:39 Seriously? 2009-02-10T10:10:44 No. 2009-02-10T10:10:47 No 2009-02-10T10:10:56 GOod. :-) 2009-02-10T10:11:17 Cyan speaker, blue speaker, red speaker! 2009-02-10T10:11:24 One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish. 2009-02-10T10:11:46 I saw that iPhone link and thought of the "Perfection" game for some reason... http://www.areyougame.com/images/items/BF542-1.jpg 2009-02-10T10:11:56 tsimkins: Hah! 2009-02-10T10:12:02 Esteele: what's your next proposal? 2009-02-10T10:12:18 cthomas: Starting a new plone site. 2009-02-10T10:12:21 But seriously... 2009-02-10T10:12:25 michaelmiller, rwellar: Once ErikRose implements the Extension rules, can you check and see what you're still missing? I also sent you an email with suggested proxy redirects for the ext/resources and bulk milk tank sites. 2009-02-10T10:12:39 It's probably something we should look at together. 2009-02-10T10:12:54 OK 2009-02-10T10:12:54 tsimkins: will do 2009-02-10T10:12:59 can we schedule a time? 2009-02-10T10:13:09 and I'll jog down 2009-02-10T10:13:18 Sure. Unfortunately I don't have any available time until Thursday. 2009-02-10T10:13:37 Thursday would be fine 2009-02-10T10:13:42 Ok. Good. 2009-02-10T10:13:50 what time is good for you? 2009-02-10T10:14:06 I'm open from 9-10 and all afternoon. 2009-02-10T10:14:30 OK, our partner meeting is at 11... 2009-02-10T10:14:48 so how does 9 sound? 2009-02-10T10:14:54 That'll be fine. 2009-02-10T10:15:06 great...see you then 2009-02-10T10:15:51 esteele: sorry...got distracted... 2009-02-10T10:16:14 esteele: i ran into an issue testing out FacultyStaffDirectory. i installed it and it broke my site :) 2009-02-10T10:16:17 *** esteele_ has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T10:16:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o esteele_ 2009-02-10T10:16:26 Yarrr. 2009-02-10T10:16:43 uhoh, now they're ganging up on me 2009-02-10T10:17:16 *** esteele has quit IRC 2009-02-10T10:17:19 *** esteele_ is now known as esteele 2009-02-10T10:17:27 cjj: Better? 2009-02-10T10:17:31 heh 2009-02-10T10:17:38 did you see what i wrote a minute ago? 2009-02-10T10:17:46 No. 2009-02-10T10:17:55 (10:16:13 AM) cjj: esteele: i ran into an issue testing out FacultyStaffDirectory. i installed it and it broke my site :) 2009-02-10T10:17:57 *** kevin7kal_ has quit IRC 2009-02-10T10:17:58 *** kevin7kal has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T10:17:58 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o kevin7kal 2009-02-10T10:18:09 Yikes. 2009-02-10T10:18:14 https://wikispaces.psu.edu/display/repository/Home 2009-02-10T10:18:18 How did it break it? 2009-02-10T10:18:22 i just grabbed the egg, but then my site throws a remember error about a user 2009-02-10T10:18:54 i tried to find issue tracker for the product, but couldn't... 2009-02-10T10:18:55 Mind pasting it? 2009-02-10T10:19:12 cjj: http://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/newticket 2009-02-10T10:19:13 yeah, i will try to generate it again (can't remember what computer i had that buildout on...) 2009-02-10T10:20:04 esteele: ahha...would be helpful if that were linked off of http://plone.org/products/faculty-staff-directory/ :) 2009-02-10T10:20:19 (since that is where http://weblion.psu.edu/products pushes the user to) 2009-02-10T10:20:24 cjj: Yes. I thought it was. I'll add it now. 2009-02-10T10:20:31 thanks 2009-02-10T10:20:35 * cjj looks for broken site... 2009-02-10T10:21:01 cjj: I'm assuming you installed it using buildout? 2009-02-10T10:21:05 It was. Somebody made the portlet go away in the upgrade. 2009-02-10T10:21:06 yeap 2009-02-10T10:21:16 ErikRose: Ah, that'd do it. 2009-02-10T10:21:18 * ErikRose complains on #plone.org 2009-02-10T10:21:23 yes, that whole products section on plone.org is seriously worse than it was before 2009-02-10T10:21:36 screenshots have disappeared, as have links... 2009-02-10T10:21:44 It's harder to scan 2009-02-10T10:21:45 esteele: was i supposed to add it to zcml slugs too? i assumed since it was a Product.* i didn't have to... 2009-02-10T10:21:47 And someone needs to give some css loving to the list of downloads. 2009-02-10T10:22:07 Yeah, that much is ticketed 2009-02-10T10:22:13 * ErikRose looks into the portlet thing. 2009-02-10T10:22:17 cjj: You shouldn't have to. 2009-02-10T10:22:33 And I believe membrane and relations are both Products.* as well. 2009-02-10T10:22:56 The traceback should give us a better idea though. 2009-02-10T10:23:03 * cjj assumes that since they were dependencies, i don't have to do anything with those... 2009-02-10T10:23:09 https://dev.plone.org/plone.org/ticket/1070 2009-02-10T10:23:10 yeah, waiting for the instance to start up now 2009-02-10T10:23:33 Typical graham confusion, but he gets his point across. 2009-02-10T10:28:16 doh...gotta build again (forgot i took it out after it broke stuff) 2009-02-10T10:28:23 * cjj pays the plone tax some more 2009-02-10T10:30:43 Yay, buildout! 2009-02-10T10:31:11 Oh, shut your pie hole, ErikRose. 2009-02-10T10:31:16 um...the buildout got stuck installing it appears... 2009-02-10T10:31:21 hahaha 2009-02-10T10:31:37 See above! ;-) 2009-02-10T10:31:38 cjj: Stuck? 2009-02-10T10:32:12 ah, there it goes...some download timed out 2009-02-10T10:32:35 ErikRose: See above! :) 2009-02-10T10:32:45 ? 2009-02-10T10:32:52 *** RobZoneNet has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T10:32:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o RobZoneNet 2009-02-10T10:33:21 Ah. 2009-02-10T10:33:23 RobZoneNet! 2009-02-10T10:33:30 hey esteele 2009-02-10T10:33:35 RobZoneNet: XBMC FTW! 2009-02-10T10:33:52 nize, 2009-02-10T10:34:21 how do you like it... i wonder if the only difference between xbmc and boxee is the social part 2009-02-10T10:34:30 esteele: i got a tivo series 3 yesterday 2009-02-10T10:34:36 shaved off almost 100 bucks 2009-02-10T10:35:33 Cool. 2009-02-10T10:36:20 * cjj becomes impatient and starts the buildout again, hoping for better downloading 2009-02-10T10:38:44 *** AdamAtNCPC has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T10:39:14 but i have to wait for the cable company to install the cable card 2009-02-10T10:39:36 RobZoneNet: are you without internet then? 2009-02-10T10:39:48 i have internet 2009-02-10T10:39:48 Maybe you should send them pictures of you putting other cards in slots successfully. 2009-02-10T10:39:53 For example, at the gas station 2009-02-10T10:40:34 just not most hd channels. I will temporarily plug the cable into my tv.. i get most local channels in hd without a box 2009-02-10T10:41:04 * esteele spent an hour watching old Fat Albert episodes on Hulu last night. :) 2009-02-10T10:41:14 * kevin7kal hey hey hey 2009-02-10T10:41:18 Fat Albert rocks my socks. 2009-02-10T10:41:25 esteele: hehe nice 2009-02-10T10:41:28 hey kevin7kal 2009-02-10T10:41:29 I forgot that had a laugh track. 2009-02-10T10:41:37 That, the FLintstones, and Scooby Doo 2009-02-10T10:42:04 yeah i will be getting a apple tv or find a way to hack my tivo to put on xmbc or boxee 2009-02-10T10:44:45 *** simmerdesigns has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T10:48:01 Apparently we have a policy against plugging non-TLT machines into our network, as we've been wont to do in the conference room when the wireless is acting wonky. 2009-02-10T10:48:24 Could y'all help me describe "wonky" so we can get it working reliably? 2009-02-10T10:48:34 Slow 2009-02-10T10:48:34 ("We" being Jason) 2009-02-10T10:49:00 What about connecting to the VPN? Is that unreliable? Does it work on second try? 2009-02-10T10:49:10 Is it better in the front room? 2009-02-10T10:49:12 "Performing in such a fashion as to prevent the execution of our jobs"? 2009-02-10T10:49:13 esteele: hm...seems i can't run a buildout now. keep getting Download error: (104, 'Connection reset by peer') -- Some packages may not be found! 2009-02-10T10:49:13 Download error: (110, 'Connection timed out') -- Some packages may not be found! 2009-02-10T10:49:22 We've had problems during Adobe Connect meetings using the VPN and wireless 2009-02-10T10:49:35 So not enough thruput to do video. 2009-02-10T10:49:45 Nope 2009-02-10T10:50:02 It's intermittent 2009-02-10T10:50:10 Sometimes it's fine and sometimes it's flaky 2009-02-10T10:50:27 I suspect it's flakier in semester during the afternoons 2009-02-10T10:50:33 when all the students are on 2009-02-10T10:51:09 I think some of the Adobe Connect problems are also not originating in our wireless, although that doesn't help 2009-02-10T10:51:26 Other slowness I've experienced in the conference room: editing wiki pages 2009-02-10T10:51:42 Running a buildout 2009-02-10T10:51:43 webliontickets: Ticket #1000 (Video - Equipment that is needed) updated 2009-02-10T10:51:46 cjj: Hrm. I don't know what to do about that. 2009-02-10T10:51:57 pypi is up. 2009-02-10T10:52:12 As I say, it's intermittent 2009-02-10T10:52:32 Wireless has improved noticeably in here though -- I can actually get it at my desk now! 2009-02-10T10:53:28 heh, yeah...i'll try again later 2009-02-10T10:53:39 catherine-w: Is it worse in the conf room than out here? 2009-02-10T10:53:42 esteele: this is why i usually dont do buildouts etc...everything in my wake breaks ;) 2009-02-10T10:53:50 ErikRose: can't really say 2009-02-10T10:53:55 catherine-w: What about connecting to the VPN? Does that always work? 2009-02-10T10:54:08 ErikRose: "out here" is at my desk, which is a wireless black hole thanks to the microwaves in subway 2009-02-10T10:54:18 cjj: yes, I remember that all too well. :) 2009-02-10T10:54:20 Those really shouldn't leak. Scary. 2009-02-10T10:54:34 Maybe you should wear a tinfoil hat. 2009-02-10T10:54:39 ErikRose: connecting to the vpn is much, much better than it was a few months ago 2009-02-10T10:54:43 esteele: i'll get back to breaking your software later...maybe after you're done birthdaying :D 2009-02-10T10:54:49 *** BGaddie has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T10:55:08 esteele: It's your birfday?! 2009-02-10T10:55:21 cjj: Ok. If you can create a ticket once you've got a traceback, I'll do what I can. :) 2009-02-10T10:55:25 ErikRose: whereas I used to take many, many tries to get onto the vpn, it's now rare that i have to try even twice 2009-02-10T10:55:26 ErikRose: Yes. 2009-02-10T10:55:27 rwellar: With the personnel redirects, is there any reason why we can't redirect any "not found" faculty/staff/student pages to the top level department-directory rather than /department-directory/(faculty|staff|student)? That would be just one rewrite map rather than three. 2009-02-10T10:55:34 Happy Birthday, esteele! 2009-02-10T10:55:36 esteele: congrats 2009-02-10T10:55:36 esteele: Well, happy birfday! 2009-02-10T10:55:44 thanks! 2009-02-10T10:55:45 I won't say anybody else bad about buildout all day long. 2009-02-10T10:55:50 Or anything. 2009-02-10T10:55:58 haha 2009-02-10T10:56:05 * cjj doesn't believe ErikRose 2009-02-10T10:56:11 YOu can take over, cjj. 2009-02-10T10:56:26 Thanks. 2009-02-10T10:56:34 happy birthday esteele :) 2009-02-10T10:57:36 * paul_r jumps on the bandwagon... happy birthday esteele 2009-02-10T10:58:01 * catherine-w wonders what the web 2.0 equivalent of us all singing "Happy Birthday" is 2009-02-10T10:58:02 webliontickets: Ticket #1001 (Load Test Streaming server) updated 2009-02-10T10:58:28 catherine-w: an ecard where we don't have to do anything :P 2009-02-10T10:58:36 hola everyone 2009-02-10T10:59:12 good morning mmols 2009-02-10T10:59:13 mhmm... group ecards.. the untapped market 2009-02-10T10:59:32 dcnoye: check your twitter. laugh hysterically. 2009-02-10T10:59:35 RobZoneNet: are we still going ? 2009-02-10T10:59:49 yes why 2009-02-10T10:59:53 hello mmols 2009-02-10T11:00:01 howdy 2009-02-10T11:00:16 its 11 now 2009-02-10T11:00:19 <-- new intern for those who don't know 2009-02-10T11:00:22 it's 11 2009-02-10T11:00:34 its 11? oh dear, time for class. 2009-02-10T11:00:43 ok man... give me one sec 2009-02-10T11:01:13 webliontickets: Ticket #1105 (Additional Rewrite Rules for VetSci Extension) updated 2009-02-10T11:01:33 mmols: Ah. Welcome. :) 2009-02-10T11:02:03 welcome mmols 2009-02-10T11:03:35 welcome mmols 2009-02-10T11:04:11 Gracias. Gotta run to class now. Ill usually be in here all day friday, and at random times during the other weekdays. 2009-02-10T11:06:45 *** esteele has quit IRC 2009-02-10T11:09:43 *** cjj has left #weblion 2009-02-10T11:12:39 *** jdeluca has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T11:16:33 webliontickets: Changeset [6692]: I never liked the ini format for entry_points. 2009-02-10T11:16:36 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o michaelmiller 2009-02-10T11:18:14 *** dcnoye has quit IRC 2009-02-10T11:19:42 *** RobZoneNet has quit IRC 2009-02-10T11:25:53 *** esteele has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T11:25:53 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o esteele 2009-02-10T11:26:10 *** dcnoye has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T11:26:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o dcnoye 2009-02-10T11:27:38 *** RobZoneNet has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T11:27:38 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o RobZoneNet 2009-02-10T11:28:04 Hey all - I'm looking at the history tab of one of our Plone sites and while I can see the history, none of the diffs are showing up when I try to compare versions. 2009-02-10T11:28:24 Anyone seen this ... or have any ideas? 2009-02-10T11:29:15 webliontickets: Ticket #1105 (Additional Rewrite Rules for VetSci Extension) updated 2009-02-10T11:29:56 jdeluca: did you pack your database recently? Maybe you lost an earlier version? (Does history work like this...? I don't know) 2009-02-10T11:30:05 catherine-w: No, it doesn't. 2009-02-10T11:30:13 hehe, so much for that idea then! 2009-02-10T11:30:26 jdeluca: What kind of data type is it? Does diffing ever work for that type? 2009-02-10T11:30:29 I thought of that ... I pack every night, but keep 7 days of history 2009-02-10T11:30:39 I'm not sure how diffing knows which fields to diff. (All?) 2009-02-10T11:30:59 plus if I make changes right now and those don't show up either 2009-02-10T11:31:11 * catherine-w checks chapter 7 of Practical Plone 3 2009-02-10T11:31:52 It will typically diff the page content - we looked at another site on a different machine and it shows all changes between versions 2009-02-10T11:32:02 So it's a Page. 2009-02-10T11:32:13 aye 2009-02-10T11:34:08 Is there something you can set in site setup -> type settings? 2009-02-10T11:34:20 ErikRose: Are you saying that this versioning will work even with the database packing (because that was my first thought) 2009-02-10T11:34:42 jdeluca: Yes. Plone history stuff doesn't use ZODB's undo stack. 2009-02-10T11:34:57 that's good to know 2009-02-10T11:35:32 interestingly, I can revert to previous versions (at least in some cases that I've checked) 2009-02-10T11:35:47 I just don't know what the heck I'm reverting to :-) 2009-02-10T11:36:23 Chapter 7 doesn't help at all :( 2009-02-10T11:36:54 yeah - I saw that online 2009-02-10T11:37:05 jdeluca: does the "preview" link work at all> 2009-02-10T11:38:18 What version of Plone are you using? 2009-02-10T11:38:28 I wonder if there's a bug. 2009-02-10T11:38:48 3.1.7 2009-02-10T11:39:10 I found this: "Content items can be configured to have versioning enabled/disabled through the site setup / Plone Configuration panel under "Types"." 2009-02-10T11:39:18 Sounds yummy. 2009-02-10T11:39:27 Does look like it's versioning, though. 2009-02-10T11:39:45 I've never messed with that and it's set to default 2009-02-10T11:40:34 webliontickets: vbs-personnel.rules attached to Ticket #1107 | Ticket #1107 (VetSci personnel rewrite rules) created 2009-02-10T11:40:43 default should include: pages, news items, Events and Links 2009-02-10T11:41:44 webliontickets: students.map attached to Ticket #1107 | staff.map attached to Ticket #1107 | faculty.map attached to Ticket #1107 2009-02-10T11:43:14 webliontickets: Ticket #1105 (Additional Rewrite Rules for VetSci Extension) updated 2009-02-10T11:44:44 those settings are correct. Like ErikRose says - it looks like it's versioning (because I can revert). It's the diff that seems to be horked. 2009-02-10T11:45:16 Another wild-ass guess: is the diff lib missing? Does Plone strictly require it? 2009-02-10T11:46:43 I like WAGs - not sure how I would know if that's missing 2009-02-10T11:46:49 another bit of data ... 2009-02-10T11:46:56 Okay, this is an actual insightful piece of spam: "Time is that quality of nature which keeps events from happening all at once. Lately it doesn't seem to be working." 2009-02-10T11:47:08 * ErikRose deletes ticket 1097 anyway. 2009-02-10T11:47:24 I especially like the irony of "lately". 2009-02-10T11:47:39 on another site in the same instance (imported from another machine), the diff is working 2009-02-10T11:48:23 I was getting "bacon" spam for awhile... It was a paragraph or two about bacon, with a link to some spam site. 2009-02-10T11:48:43 monty python fan? where were the eggs? 2009-02-10T11:49:10 Ha... And the Vikings! 2009-02-10T11:49:39 webliontickets: Ticket #1100 (Delete all this Trac spam) closed 2009-02-10T11:49:45 It's a good wiki. There's not much spam in it. ;-) 2009-02-10T11:49:50 *** krd111 has joined #weblion 2009-02-10T11:52:05 We can delete tickets now through the web. Have at it. See my comment linked above. 2009-02-10T11:52:07 good morning krd111 2009-02-10T11:52:21 ErikRose: yay! 2009-02-10T11:52:48 dcnoye: hey Darryl 2009-02-10T11:52:49 hurrah! 2009-02-10T11:53:29 catherine-w: do you have a Plone 3.1.7 instance on your laptop? or did you already upgrade? 2009-02-10T11:53:41 jdeluca: I have one... want me to look at versioning? 2009-02-10T11:53:52 could ya? 2009-02-10T11:53:58 sure. 2 ticks 2009-02-10T11:54:09 just makes some changes and see if you can see the diff 2009-02-10T11:54:26 doing it now 2009-02-10T11:54:41 just starting the right instance 2009-02-10T11:56:31 webliontickets: Bad Content edited 2009-02-10T11:58:29 jdeluca: hmmmm I can see the page that says "changes since revision X" but it doesn't have any content 2009-02-10T11:58:46 yep 2009-02-10T11:59:29 If it were working you would see a lovely diff of exactly which bits of content were added, deleted or modified 2009-02-10T11:59:39 Yes, I've seen that before 2009-02-10T11:59:55 got a 3.2 instance? 2009-02-10T12:00:03 not yet 2009-02-10T12:00:13