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2008-10-31T00:36:54  <ErikRose> Sorry, kevin7kal, I didn't hear you.
2008-10-31T00:38:17  *** ErikRose changes topic to "Today's user group: retro-eggs, load testing, and virtualenv. | Chat logs: http://weblion.psu.edu/chatlogs/%23weblion/2008/10/ | To avoid being logged, start your message with [nolog]."
2008-10-31T00:38:42  <kevin7kal> no matter.  I was thinking it was the problem I see with trac 0.9 and Berkeley DB locking up after so many writes.  apparently this is a different issue
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2008-10-31T00:38:58  <ErikRose> Nah. Besides, it's SQLite, not bdb
2008-10-31T00:39:14  <ErikRose> Oh, you meant svn. That's FSFS.
2008-10-31T00:39:34  <ErikRose> Well, that's enough for one night. See you tomorrow!
2008-10-31T00:39:41  <kevin7kal> cu
2008-10-31T00:40:00  <ErikRose> And I must take the chance to say…IT'S ALIIIIIIIIVE!!!
2008-10-31T00:40:34  <RobZoneNet> lol
2008-10-31T00:40:44  <ErikRose> Damn, don't any of us ever leave here?
2008-10-31T00:41:00  <RobZoneNet> hehe
2008-10-31T00:41:08  <kevin7kal> "Robzone II"  Just when you thought is was safe to go back to campus
2008-10-31T00:41:38  <RobZoneNet> lol
2008-10-31T00:42:06  <kevin7kal> why does os x tell me that if I want to install the updates I have to restart right now?
2008-10-31T00:42:21  <ErikRose> They changed that in 10.5 or so.
2008-10-31T00:42:36  <ErikRose> You can DL them but not actually install them without rebooting. Race conditions or something, probably.
2008-10-31T00:42:55  <ErikRose> When you someday restart, it'll prompt you to install them.
2008-10-31T00:43:43  <kevin7kal> Race conditions?   Like it might be snowing on the NASCAR track so it could be dangerous?  :-)
2008-10-31T00:43:51  <ErikRose> Yeah, like that.
2008-10-31T00:43:53  <ErikRose> :-)
2008-10-31T00:44:01  <RobZoneNet> lol
2008-10-31T00:44:13  <ErikRose> Rob's not really here; he just has auto-lol on.
2008-10-31T00:44:32  * ErikRose starts RobBot in secret.
2008-10-31T00:44:45  <RobZoneNet> i'll be back
2008-10-31T00:44:47  <kevin7kal> oh, I was thinking he was assimilated by Elmo
2008-10-31T00:44:52  * ErikRose types "print >>irc, 'G&$34dammit, IE!'"
2008-10-31T00:46:08  <RobZoneNet> that was in a arnold voice
2008-10-31T00:46:19  <ErikRose> na klar
2008-10-31T00:46:35  * kevin7kal wishes he could send screen shots (easily) through irc
2008-10-31T00:46:40  <RobZoneNet> caleeefornia
2008-10-31T00:46:45  <ErikRose> ditto
2008-10-31T00:47:18  <kevin7kal> was that Kilingon?
2008-10-31T00:47:34  <ErikRose> Close. German.
2008-10-31T00:47:46  <kevin7kal> yeah, that is close
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2008-10-31T09:10:55  <jdeluca> catherine-w: do you have time for another presentation at the PUG meeting today?
2008-10-31T09:11:06  <catherine-w> jdeluca: absolutely :)
2008-10-31T09:11:23  <catherine-w> jdeluca: what will you be presenting on?
2008-10-31T09:11:28  <jdeluca> I figured if I was coming down I could show what I've been up to
2008-10-31T09:11:48  <catherine-w> With regard to...???
2008-10-31T09:11:50  <jdeluca> using the ANGEL API to control access to your plone site
2008-10-31T09:11:56  <catherine-w> oooh - lovely
2008-10-31T09:12:12  <catherine-w> Yes, please - that would be great
2008-10-31T09:12:26  <jdeluca> relevant to those of us who have to limit access to folks who are registered for the course
2008-10-31T09:12:51  <jdeluca> cool - count on me then
2008-10-31T09:14:07  <catherine-w> Thanks - I'll just send an email around announcing it, in case that entices a few more people down
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2008-10-31T10:30:00  <pumazi> esteele: does gloworm allow you to do anything with htmlhead viewlets?
2008-10-31T10:30:27  <esteele> pumazi: Yes and no. You can inspect them, but only one of the 3 is editable. That's a Plone failing.
2008-10-31T10:31:18  <esteele> They don't get registered with portal_view_customizations for some reason. I used to know why, but I've completely forgotten it...
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2008-10-31T11:06:47  <catherine-w> pumazi: I recall there's a tutorial on plone.org about changing htmlhead viewlets
2008-10-31T11:07:09  <pumazi> catherine-w: thanks, i looked at it
2008-10-31T11:07:16  <catherine-w> oh, ok
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2008-10-31T11:43:23  <SnarfBot> webliontickets: Changeset [5592]: Changed all MultiSelect boxes to InAndOutWidgets <https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/changeset/5592>
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2008-10-31T12:15:32  <ErikRose> esteele: Cool fix.
2008-10-31T12:15:37  <esteele> Thanks.
2008-10-31T12:15:41  <esteele> Poorly documented.
2008-10-31T12:15:46  <ErikRose> Now it's better. :-)
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2008-10-31T12:17:03  <SnarfBot> webliontickets: Ticket #821 (FSD views don't match on main people listing and in classification listing) closed <https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/ticket/821#comment:1>
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2008-10-31T12:34:24  <esteele> Ooh, upper AND lower case letters!
2008-10-31T12:34:24  <esteele> http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/What-the-Ad.aspx
2008-10-31T12:35:32  <SnarfBot> webliontickets: Ticket #801 (Package FacultyStaffDirectory) updated <https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/ticket/801#comment:11> | Changeset [5596]: Tagged weblion-zope-facultystaffdirectory 2.1-1. Refs #801. <https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/changeset/5596>
2008-10-31T12:35:49  <RobZoneNet_> anyone interested in lunch?
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2008-10-31T12:37:59  <RobZoneNet_> reminder we have a meeting at 1:30
2008-10-31T12:38:43  <dcnoye> RobZoneNet_, yep
2008-10-31T12:40:05  <RobZoneNet_> qdoba? monkeyhands? green bowl(wish we had the time)
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2008-10-31T12:40:40  <dcnoye> *sigh, me too
2008-10-31T12:40:51  <dcnoye> let's hit the q
2008-10-31T12:41:05  <esteele> I'm up for McClanahans.
2008-10-31T12:41:16  <esteele> But I'll walk with you to Qdoba.
2008-10-31T12:41:17  <RobZoneNet_> i am up for either
2008-10-31T12:41:30  <dcnoye> icould to either too
2008-10-31T12:41:42  <RobZoneNet_> ok i am ready to go
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2008-10-31T12:44:34  <mikehalm> gil1: hey Gil!
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2008-10-31T12:52:58  <gil1> mikehalm: hello mike
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2008-10-31T13:22:55  <mikehalm> gil1: do you see Sergio?
2008-10-31T13:23:22  <mikehalm> gil1: can you ask him to get back to me on my email?
2008-10-31T13:25:10  <gil1> mikehalm: no I have not seen him
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2008-10-31T13:25:39  <mikehalm> gil1: OK if you do remind him to get back to me
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2008-10-31T13:26:09  <gil1> mikehalm: ok I'll tell him
2008-10-31T13:26:17  <mikehalm> gil1: thanks
2008-10-31T13:26:31  <gil1> mikehalm: no problem
2008-10-31T13:26:33  <mikehalm> gil1: we got to get him on the IRC
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2008-10-31T13:26:50  <mikehalm> gil1: (-;
2008-10-31T13:28:13  <gil1> mikehalm: yes I'm going to explain him the way to use it
2008-10-31T13:28:42  <mikehalm> gil1: do you find it useful?
2008-10-31T13:29:07  <gil1> mikehalm: yes very useful. which IRC client do you use in Mac?
2008-10-31T13:29:12  <mikehalm> gil1: you can ask technical questions of our developers here when you run into problems
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2008-10-31T13:29:33  <gil1> mikehalm: thanks :)
2008-10-31T13:29:34  <mikehalm> gil1: Colloquy
2008-10-31T13:31:27  <mikehalm> gil1: more information here: https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/wiki/IrcChannel
2008-10-31T13:31:40  <gil1> mikehalm: tranks, I'll install it on sergio's Mac
2008-10-31T13:32:17  <mikehalm> great!
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2008-10-31T13:32:47  <mikehalm> gil1: you can do private chat too with this
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2008-10-31T13:34:16  <mikehalm> gil1: this allows for private conversations
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2008-10-31T13:35:04  <gil1> mikehalm: good, I'll look how to do it. I dont known if my IRC client can do it, I use Pidgi in Linux.
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2008-10-31T13:47:00  <gil1> mikehalm: ok
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2008-10-31T14:05:43  <jchamm> -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =-
2008-10-31T14:06:49  <catherine-w> jchamm: a good place to check might be on #plone -- ask MACYet, who has been taming FSD and CMFBibliographyAT to work with each other
2008-10-31T14:07:01  <jchamm> Thanks catherine-w.
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2008-10-31T14:09:47  <staze> anyone know why http://website.com/blah would render without css, but http://website.com/blah/ would work fine?
2008-10-31T14:10:14  <staze> using VHM and mod_rewrite... for some reason, mod_rewrite isn't adding the trailing slash...
2008-10-31T14:10:28  <esteele> ErikRose: ^^
2008-10-31T14:10:59  <ErikRose> What?
2008-10-31T14:11:20  <esteele> You're the local rewriterule expert. :)
2008-10-31T14:11:24  <ErikRose> ah
2008-10-31T14:11:45  <ErikRose> Here's a good example:     RewriteRule ^/(.*)$ http://127.0.0.1:8080/VirtualHostBase/https/%{SERVER_NAME}:443/VirtualHostRoot/$1 [L,P,E=remoteUser:%{LA-U:REMOTE_USER}]
2008-10-31T14:12:09  <staze> RewriteRule ^/autumn2008(.*) balancer://balancer-group/VirtualHostBase/http/%{SERVER_NAME}:80/etude/autumn2008/VirtualHostRoot/_vh_autumn2008$1 [NE,P]
2008-10-31T14:12:28  <staze> works great if I type the URL with a trailing slash
2008-10-31T14:12:35  <staze> doesn't work without it
2008-10-31T14:13:12  <staze> the odd thing is, I'm using this with other sites, and they work fine
2008-10-31T14:15:36  <staze> http://etude.uoregon.edu/autumn2008 doesn't work, but add the trailing slash, and it does
2008-10-31T14:15:46  <ErikRose> Can I see the address it's spitting out for one of the stylesheets?
2008-10-31T14:16:15  <lvidmar> it's confusing a folder with a document (IMHO)
2008-10-31T14:18:20  <esteele> Don't you need a / before the $1?
2008-10-31T14:18:26  <staze> what do you mean?
2008-10-31T14:18:29  <staze> you shouldn't...
2008-10-31T14:18:33  <jchamm> Bingo.
2008-10-31T14:18:41  <staze> but with or without it, it does the same thing
2008-10-31T14:18:51  <ErikRose> I don't like your regex.
2008-10-31T14:19:16  <staze> added it, same result
2008-10-31T14:19:22  <staze> I don't like regex period. =P
2008-10-31T14:19:54  <staze> what would you suggest instead of what I have?
2008-10-31T14:20:10  <dcnoye> ErikRose, the "-o" tells buildout to run in 'offline' mode buildout will not access the outside world at all
2008-10-31T14:21:48  <esteele> jchamm: It doesn't work. It was a failed attempt at bridging the two products during our spring sprint. It's on hold until FSD 3.0 is out and the new bib tool is stable.
2008-10-31T14:22:16  <jchamm> Ah. Thanks esteele!
2008-10-31T14:24:19  <esteele> If you're interested in helping, we'd be happy to keep you in the loop. :)
2008-10-31T14:25:14  <jchamm> Sure. I usually lurk around here. Is there a mailing list for FSD?
2008-10-31T14:27:24  <staze> ErikRose?
2008-10-31T14:29:04  <ErikRose> RewriteRule ^/autumn2008($|/.*) balancer://balancer-group/VirtualHostBase/http/%{SERVER_NAME}:80/etude/autumn2008/VirtualHostRoot/_vh_autumn2008$1 [NE,P] is a start.
2008-10-31T14:29:04  <esteele> jchamm: No, but maybe we should start one. :)
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2008-10-31T14:29:26  <staze> okay... moment...
2008-10-31T14:29:53  <ErikRose> I'm sorry I don't have a good exact example of your case.
2008-10-31T14:30:18  <staze> gar... still doesn't work
2008-10-31T14:30:52  <staze> on another site, this works: RewriteRule ^/2008(.*) balancer://balancer-group/VirtualHostBase/http/%{SERVER_NAME}:80/flux08/VirtualHostRoot/_vh_2008/$1 [P,L]
2008-10-31T14:31:14  <staze> so, I'm really friggin confused.
2008-10-31T14:31:24  <ErikRose> I don't know exactly what you have on the backend, but would this suffice?:
2008-10-31T14:31:39  <ErikRose> RewriteRule ^/autumn2008($|/.*) balancer://balancer-group/VirtualHostBase/http/%{SERVER_NAME}:80/etude/VirtualHostRoot/autumn2008$1 [NE,P]
2008-10-31T14:32:11  <staze> I don't think so... but, just a moment...
2008-10-31T14:33:21  <staze> weird... same reslut
2008-10-31T14:33:23  <staze> result
2008-10-31T14:33:32  <ErikRose> I very rarely have to use _vh_
2008-10-31T14:33:54  <staze> actually, no, that's worse.
2008-10-31T14:34:01  <staze> breaks subpages
2008-10-31T14:34:21  <ErikRose> All I can do is point you here: https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/wiki/VirtualHostMonster
2008-10-31T14:34:31  <staze> *nods*
2008-10-31T14:35:47  <staze> *nods*
2008-10-31T14:35:58  <staze> thanks for trying.
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2008-10-31T14:39:53  <staze> we'll just deal until something hits me
2008-10-31T14:40:04  <staze> I can't shake the feeling it's a caching issue with apache
2008-10-31T14:42:15  <ErikRose> Well, for caching, I always normalize slashes:
2008-10-31T14:42:24  <ErikRose> # Normalize slashes at the ends of URLs first so we don't cache stuff twice.
2008-10-31T14:42:25  <ErikRose> # It's the includer's responsibility to turn RewriteEngine On.
2008-10-31T14:42:25  <ErikRose> RewriteRule ^(/.*)/$ $1
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2008-10-31T14:43:02  <staze> hmm
2008-10-31T14:43:58  <staze> huh
2008-10-31T14:44:23  <staze> that actually made the url with the trailing slash act like the one without, and the one without break completely
2008-10-31T14:44:37  <ErikRose> Good, now you're consistent.
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2008-10-31T14:58:03  <SnarfBot> webliontickets: Changeset [5599]: Make the error panel resize properly. <https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/changeset/5599>
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2008-10-31T15:05:38  <esteele> http://store.baconsalt.com/Baconnaise-3-pack_p_0-34.html :D
2008-10-31T15:16:38  <staze> esteele: wow
2008-10-31T15:24:09  <SnarfBot> webliontickets: Build Out edited <https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/wiki/BuildOut?version=40>
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2008-10-31T16:08:18  <SnarfBot> webliontickets: Changeset [5600]: Corrected some Homepage fields I forgot to update. <https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/changeset/5600>
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2008-10-31T16:13:53  <SnarfBot> webliontickets: Changeset [5601]: modified p4a calendar to show start and end times in month view <https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/changeset/5601>
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2008-10-31T16:19:55  <guy_heckman> to localize date-time to am/pm eastern time.
2008-10-31T16:19:57  <guy_heckman> python: DateTime(obj.start).toZone('US/Eastern').AMPMMinutes(
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2008-10-31T16:20:17  <guy_heckman> python: DateTime(obj.start).toZone('US/Eastern').AMPMMinutes()
2008-10-31T16:25:05  <guy_heckman> http://paste.plone.org/24738
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2008-10-31T16:52:19  <dcnoye> ErikRose, do you have a second ?
2008-10-31T16:56:44  <ErikRose> yes
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2008-10-31T17:03:29  <dcnoye> thanks !
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2008-10-31T17:06:28  <SnarfBot> webliontickets: Changeset [5602]: removed tal:fudge from plone4artists calendar month.pt <https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/changeset/5602>
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2008-10-31T17:11:15  <natea> hey, who's putting fudge in p4acalendar? ;)
2008-10-31T17:11:45  <ErikRose> It's Halloween!
2008-10-31T17:12:01  <catherine-w> natea: we're trying to make it sweeter :)
2008-10-31T17:12:19  <natea> oh yeah, you guys cook up all the sweet potions!
2008-10-31T17:12:35  <catherine-w> natea: actually, we have submitted some tickets relating to customizing the UI
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2008-10-31T17:13:08  <catherine-w> We're also seeing if we can work out fixes ourselves...
2008-10-31T17:13:46  <catherine-w> natea: I notice that we can't comment on tickets on the new p4a trac site ... that capability would be very useful, though
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2008-10-31T17:14:07  <natea> catherine-w: yeah, let me see if i can fix that.
2008-10-31T17:14:17  <catherine-w> natea: thanks! much appreciated
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2008-10-31T17:40:20  <SnarfBot> webliontickets: Changeset [5603]: * Made Trac version getting work with the 0.11. * Ended the apachegroups ... <https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/changeset/5603>
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2008-10-31T17:46:08  <SnarfBot> webliontickets: Changeset [5604]: Killed last arg to trac-admin initenv that was failing in Trac 0.11. <https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/changeset/5604>
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2008-10-31T17:54:48  <catherine-w> nerds rejoice! http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2008/10/31/nervous-singles-rejoice-w-41-lets-you-connect-your-t-shirt-to-your-facebook-profile/
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2008-10-31T19:07:54  <staze> have a great samhain everyone!
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2008-10-31T19:49:08  <lvidmar> huzzah
2008-10-31T19:49:16  <lvidmar> site launched, albiet 4.5hrs late
2008-10-31T19:49:26  <lvidmar> and i've worked almost 2 weeks worth of hours this week
2008-10-31T19:49:47  <lvidmar> me -> home
2008-10-31T19:49:56  <lvidmar> have a good weekend, you've been great
2008-10-31T19:49:58  <lvidmar> :)
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2008-10-31T21:39:19  <SnarfBot> webliontickets: Changeset [5605]: ErrorDialog kss now accepts a "message" parameter. <https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/changeset/5605>
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