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Future sites based on this ... 2008-10-29T10:11:34 its snowing! 2008-10-29T10:13:17 *** vbspsu has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T10:13:21 holy crap ! 2008-10-29T10:19:45 webliontickets: Changeset [5550]: Versioned to reflect the targeted version of Plone. 2008-10-29T10:23:42 *** RobZoneNet_ has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T10:26:12 hehe http://www.angelfire.com/super/badwebs/ 2008-10-29T10:27:05 *** pumazi_ has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T10:34:08 *** krd111 has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T10:37:08 *** ErikRose has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T10:37:08 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ErikRose 2008-10-29T10:37:11 *** pumazi has quit IRC 2008-10-29T10:37:23 Anybody know if a ZCML include triggers a package import, i.e. the execution of __init__.py? 2008-10-29T10:40:34 *** RobZoneNet has quit IRC 2008-10-29T10:44:13 It does! 2008-10-29T10:51:25 ErikRose, how'd you find out? 2008-10-29T10:51:32 Tried it 2008-10-29T10:51:36 Printed something from __init__ 2008-10-29T10:51:49 Ah! 2008-10-29T10:51:59 nifty 2008-10-29T10:53:18 *** grahamperrin has quit IRC 2008-10-29T10:53:19 webliontickets: Changeset [5552]: Setting current trunk version to 3.1.6 | Changeset [5551]: Tagging out current version for production. 2008-10-29T10:54:11 *** rpruyne has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T10:55:58 ErikRose, some dude just dropped off some music for you. 2008-10-29T10:56:20 Excellent. Thanks. 2008-10-29T10:59:40 *** lynnp08 has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T11:00:24 Hi -- I have a content provider who is currently obsessed with using images for his page titles (instead of h1 tags) in our Dreamweaver pages. Will he be able to continue doing this in Plone? (that is, if I don't win the battle and try to break him of this habit...) 2008-10-29T11:00:58 http://www.blackberryforums.com/general-blackberry-discussion/54184-your-favorite-mobile-sites.html 2008-10-29T11:01:07 for pumazi_ 2008-10-29T11:07:28 It's snowing! 2008-10-29T11:07:29 webliontickets: Changeset [5553]: Tagging out current trunk to 3.1.6. 2008-10-29T11:09:30 *** pumazi_ is now known as pumazi 2008-10-29T11:10:13 * ErikRose mucks with __path__. 2008-10-29T11:11:57 webliontickets: Changeset [5554]: Tagging out trunk to 3.1.6 2008-10-29T11:12:05 *** natea has quit IRC 2008-10-29T11:15:58 webliontickets: Changeset [5556]: Removing tags from smeal.recipes - not needed. | Changeset [5555]: Tagged out trunk to 3.1.6. 2008-10-29T11:21:04 *** KurtB has quit IRC 2008-10-29T11:23:48 *** cah190 has quit IRC 2008-10-29T11:33:48 *** cah190 has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T11:44:36 *** fprimex has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T11:53:26 *** mib_r2gx4c has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T11:54:18 i am trying to install plonetheme.nautica05 via built out can someone help a newbie out? 2008-10-29T11:58:18 *** mib_r2gx4c has quit IRC 2008-10-29T11:58:48 *** kevin7kal has quit IRC 2008-10-29T12:01:19 *** grahamperrin has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T12:03:20 *** natea has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T12:05:02 *** fprimex has quit IRC 2008-10-29T12:05:43 *** ErikRose has quit IRC 2008-10-29T12:06:25 *** cewing has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T12:15:17 RobZoneNet_: any plans for the next round of Beginners Group? have a few users interested 2008-10-29T12:15:52 vbspsu: not sure yet, we are thinking of a screencast approach 2008-10-29T12:18:53 *** pumazi has quit IRC 2008-10-29T12:22:30 *** boova has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T12:26:49 Hi,can anyone help with subversion/plone questions? 2008-10-29T12:26:59 * grahamperrin would love to see more screen casts :) 2008-10-29T12:27:08 *** ErikRose has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T12:27:08 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ErikRose 2008-10-29T12:29:35 grahamperrin: we hope to be making a bunch 2008-10-29T12:35:27 RobZoneNet_: cool! Did you see the Italian collection? 2008-10-29T12:35:37 i did not 2008-10-29T12:37:03 *** pumazi has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T12:39:07 *** natea has quit IRC 2008-10-29T12:39:07 *** vbspsu has quit IRC 2008-10-29T12:39:07 *** dcnoye has quit IRC 2008-10-29T12:40:49 *** dcnoye has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T12:40:49 *** natea has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T12:40:49 *** vbspsu has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T12:40:49 *** irc.freenode.net sets mode: +o dcnoye 2008-10-29T12:41:07 *** krd111 has quit IRC 2008-10-29T12:50:08 boova: Ask away. 2008-10-29T12:50:36 Ok 2008-10-29T12:51:04 *** kevin7kal has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T12:51:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o kevin7kal 2008-10-29T12:51:16 So I need to move my development plone site to my live server thru subversion 2008-10-29T12:51:25 do I move only specific files 2008-10-29T12:51:27 or 2008-10-29T12:52:02 do I move the entire directory and ignore certain files/folders on the import? 2008-10-29T12:52:07 boova, you don't need subversion to do that 2008-10-29T12:54:09 dcnoye: how would you suggest? 2008-10-29T12:55:24 just copy whatever products that your are using into the live site's products folder 2008-10-29T12:55:27 boova: You'll store your filesystem products in SVN (theming product, any custom applications). The site itself won't be in there. 2008-10-29T12:56:14 Moving from one server to another usually involves copying over the filesystem products and copying the data.fs. 2008-10-29T12:56:31 thanks esteele 2008-10-29T12:57:04 install the products, then swap out the data.fs 2008-10-29T12:59:42 fries anyone ? 2008-10-29T13:02:36 esteele: is there a list of files I'll need? Example buildout.cfg, data.fs, zope config file? 2008-10-29T13:03:07 boova, just the data.fs and the products that you have installed 2008-10-29T13:03:58 Is the production server already set up? 2008-10-29T13:04:19 Yes, but wouldn't buildout.cfg have the product info to tell to rebuild those products 2008-10-29T13:04:53 Yes, if you're using 3rd party products. 2008-10-29T13:05:10 A mock version of it is. This mock version is for content providers we are not ready to go live-live yet. 2008-10-29T13:05:28 RobZoneNet_: http://n2.nabble.com/Plone-video-manual-tp1340323p1340323.html 2008-10-29T13:05:46 So you'd need to copy over the buildout.cfg, any custom products, and data.fs. 2008-10-29T13:05:50 * kevin7kal wonders if the wireless is throttled to 10 K/s 2008-10-29T13:05:59 thanks grahamperrin 2008-10-29T13:06:24 boova: And I think that'd be it. 2008-10-29T13:06:36 Ok, when I move data.fs do I just move it or is it more complicated? 2008-10-29T13:07:02 Nope. The only thing to remember is to shut down Zope before overwriting the existing data.fs. 2008-10-29T13:07:41 It's unnervingly simple. :P 2008-10-29T13:07:49 bye 2008-10-29T13:07:49 *** grahamperrin has left #weblion 2008-10-29T13:07:57 Do I have to shut down Zope on the copy end or just the paste into end? 2008-10-29T13:08:32 I suppose just the paste end, but it wouldn't hurt to do both. 2008-10-29T13:08:36 *** mikehalm has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T13:08:52 Anyone with a strong opinion on that? 2008-10-29T13:09:28 i'd shutdown both 2008-10-29T13:09:35 I just hate to shut down on my content providers if not gonna bug anything out... 2008-10-29T13:09:58 no opinion, but if you overwrite data.fs, you either need to copy the index or delete the index so that it can rebuild as well 2008-10-29T13:10:04 Data.index 2008-10-29T13:10:18 Ah, right. Thanks kevin7kal. I always forget that one. 2008-10-29T13:10:34 shutdown the one you are copying from if there is a chance that someone might be writing to it 2008-10-29T13:10:50 * dcnoye thinks that a wiki page should be drawn up for this process 2008-10-29T13:11:53 RobZoneNet_, did you and catherine have the tuesday pbg meeting ? 2008-10-29T13:12:20 she did, i was doing another meeting 2008-10-29T13:12:27 oic 2008-10-29T13:12:56 when is your last pbg meeting? 2008-10-29T13:13:23 i think next week 2008-10-29T13:14:34 *** RobZoneNet has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T13:14:34 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o RobZoneNet 2008-10-29T13:15:35 *** RobZoneNet_ has quit IRC 2008-10-29T13:19:08 dcnoye: I think you just volunteer to do that wiki page (-; 2008-10-29T13:20:22 webliontickets: Changeset [5557]: We need container.js, not container-min.js 2008-10-29T13:35:47 ok 2008-10-29T13:35:48 webliontickets: Changeset [5558]: There's no need for a error viewlet. We'll just generate the panel through ... 2008-10-29T13:36:11 *** catherine-w has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T13:36:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o catherine-w 2008-10-29T13:36:43 dcnoye: for your wiki page, you might include making a copy of a 'hot' zeodb with repoze 2008-10-29T13:37:19 err, repozo.py 2008-10-29T13:37:24 kevin7kal, good idea 2008-10-29T13:37:31 repoze would be something a bit different 2008-10-29T13:37:45 i gotcha 2008-10-29T13:39:44 catherine-w, I ended up taking your advise and put the subversion video on the plone basics page 2008-10-29T13:40:01 you mean in the plone basics folder, dcnoye? 2008-10-29T13:41:32 Subversion video? 2008-10-29T13:42:44 boova, http://weblion.psu.edu/documentation/presentations/plone-basics 2008-10-29T13:43:02 s/advise/advice 2008-10-29T13:43:10 boova: dcnoye and I made an "intro to subversion" video 2008-10-29T13:43:47 i give catherine-w most credit, she's a smart cookie ;p 2008-10-29T13:44:16 * catherine-w blushes and thanks dcnoye also 2008-10-29T13:44:53 how was the pbg tuesday catherine-w ? 2008-10-29T13:45:08 Great! Best of this series by a long chalk 2008-10-29T13:45:15 Covered a lot, had lots of good questions.... 2008-10-29T13:45:30 Shame we weren't videoing it... but we will be making screencasts soon 2008-10-29T13:45:42 *sigh... had influenza, couldn't make it.... 2008-10-29T13:46:10 influenza, yuk.... amazed that you are here today. It usually has sufferers prostrate for days 2008-10-29T13:47:01 Are we safe? 2008-10-29T13:47:04 I have secret herbal remedy 2008-10-29T13:47:24 ErikRose, flax seeds 2008-10-29T13:47:38 *sigh* 2008-10-29T13:47:49 (joking i hope you know) 2008-10-29T13:48:21 GOod. 2008-10-29T13:49:10 * esteele is becoming a hu-yuuuuge YUI fan. :) 2008-10-29T13:49:38 GREAT video - liked it! 2008-10-29T13:49:45 yahoo user interface? 2008-10-29T13:49:45 Hurray! 2008-10-29T13:49:53 RobZoneNet: Yes. 2008-10-29T13:49:55 * dcnoye smiles 2008-10-29T13:49:59 * cewing shares esteele fandom 2008-10-29T13:50:16 i have yet to use it 2008-10-29T13:50:32 So is checkout same as update with subversion? 2008-10-29T13:50:39 Not really, boova 2008-10-29T13:50:41 And import same as check in 2008-10-29T13:50:42 Other than the fact that I've got to include 10 files to do what I want, it's great. :P 2008-10-29T13:50:47 Not really, either 2008-10-29T13:51:02 dcnoye is making another screencast explaining the intricacies of the details.... 2008-10-29T13:51:04 But... 2008-10-29T13:51:06 using them in plone esteele ? 2008-10-29T13:51:17 Imagine if we could put breakpoints in ZCML files. 2008-10-29T13:51:20 If they were Python, we could. 2008-10-29T13:51:25 checkout = copying something from a repository for the first time 2008-10-29T13:51:44 update = updating something you've already checked out so that it contains changes checked in from elsewhere 2008-10-29T13:51:44 RobZoneNet: Yeah. Making some error panels for GloWorm. 2008-10-29T13:51:49 why would you want break points in your config files? 2008-10-29T13:51:54 import = sending something to a repository for the first time 2008-10-29T13:52:03 check in = sending your changes to the repository 2008-10-29T13:52:06 So I can see which inclusion is screwing everything up 2008-10-29T13:52:20 RobZoneNet: I think I might redo the inspector panel as well. It could use resizing capabilities.. 2008-10-29T13:52:25 They're not config files anyway; they're lists of instructions. 2008-10-29T13:52:27 nice 2008-10-29T13:52:40 If they were proper config files, breakpoints wouldn't make any sense. 2008-10-29T13:52:46 boova -- if that still doesn't make sense ^^, see our subversion basics wiki page https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/wiki/SubversionBasics 2008-10-29T13:52:54 RobZoneNet: See http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/examples/layout/panel_layout_source.html 2008-10-29T13:53:18 I thought the traceback showed in debug mode when a package fails 2008-10-29T13:53:29 dcnoye - now the video is up on the WL site, can we add a link to it from the subversion and subversion basics wiki pages? 2008-10-29T13:53:39 Or at least from the latter? 2008-10-29T13:54:19 yep 2008-10-29T13:54:21 i will 2008-10-29T13:54:23 thx 2008-10-29T13:54:31 great idea too 2008-10-29T13:54:49 esteele: i was reading: http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/ 2008-10-29T14:00:20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wYiabh2hpM 2008-10-29T14:00:29 (catherine-w, ) 2008-10-29T14:00:48 Thanks, boova! 2008-10-29T14:03:36 You bet! 2008-10-29T14:03:54 ls 2008-10-29T14:03:58 twenty views ! 2008-10-29T14:03:59 he 2008-10-29T14:04:04 kevin7kal, dir 2008-10-29T14:04:05 rm -Rf ./ 2008-10-29T14:04:13 Was wondering when this will be up live to watch: Theming a Plone 3.1 Site from Start to Finish - Rob Porter 2008-10-29T14:04:17 sudo !! 2008-10-29T14:04:29 boova -- it's out of our hands, I think 2008-10-29T14:04:39 chown pwned:pwned -r / 2008-10-29T14:04:43 boova, you'll need to ping aclack on #plone 2008-10-29T14:04:45 the video from plone conference is out of our hands 2008-10-29T14:04:45 The plone.org folks are posting those 2008-10-29T14:04:51 lol 2008-10-29T14:05:11 i will be putting together the screencast... maybe i will find some time next week.. its 70 mins long 2008-10-29T14:05:13 s/aclack/aclark 2008-10-29T14:05:23 Can't wait - wanted to be there but couldn't 2008-10-29T14:05:48 * catherine-w and RobZoneNet plan to put together a medley of screencasts on theming in the next few months 2008-10-29T14:06:28 Rather than a long 70 min one, a series of shorter (8-10 min?) ones that can be mixed and matched 2008-10-29T14:06:44 +1 2008-10-29T14:06:59 Any of you interested is side consulting work on our build? Here and there kinda stuff to help us get off the ground? 2008-10-29T14:07:13 70 minutes will be too long 2008-10-29T14:07:17 It really buoys my confidence when I find comments like "# Is this the right thing?" in places like pkgutil.py. 2008-10-29T14:07:27 boova, i am 2008-10-29T14:08:08 70 mins is from start to finish 2008-10-29T14:08:09 webliontickets: Changeset [5559]: Changed Countries select to InAndOutWidget 2008-10-29T14:08:41 RobZoneNet, think of some of the partners attention span... think of my attention ! 2008-10-29T14:09:18 I'd watch it even if it was 170 minutes!! -- out of desperation and frustration of trying to follow Professional Plone Development... 2008-10-29T14:10:11 boova -- feel free to dig around in our wiki 2008-10-29T14:10:32 webliontickets: Changeset [5560]: Changed Countries select to InAndOutWidget 2008-10-29T14:10:44 For instance, here's a crash course in stuff for newbies: https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/wiki/PloneForBeginners 2008-10-29T14:11:07 And one of the things this covers is making a theme product: https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/wiki/CreateAPloneThreeThemeProduct 2008-10-29T14:11:19 As I said, RobZoneNet and I are on the brink of turning these into wee vidoes 2008-10-29T14:11:23 videos 2008-10-29T14:11:32 that last link needs updated into a paster approach 2008-10-29T14:11:36 but the rest is the same 2008-10-29T14:11:45 RobZoneNet: shall we do that in tomorrow's doc group? 2008-10-29T14:11:56 sure 2008-10-29T14:12:13 * catherine-w hates the thought of having to explain yet another technological hurdle (eggs) to newbies (sigh) 2008-10-29T14:12:23 yes 2008-10-29T14:14:05 boova - you on Windoze? 2008-10-29T14:14:46 Linux 2008-10-29T14:14:51 Phew :) 2008-10-29T14:14:56 lol 2008-10-29T14:15:46 * kevin7kal hears starbucks calling 2008-10-29T14:15:46 Actually I am on windows but building Plone thru VM that is on Linux - so essential Linux 2008-10-29T14:16:03 Well, Windows is doable, but Linux is better 2008-10-29T14:16:04 kevin7kal, me too 2008-10-29T14:16:24 boova, nice 2008-10-29T14:16:36 Btw, I was reminded of an interesting thing about users and groups in plone 3 yesterday 2008-10-29T14:16:52 So I give user Alice edit permissions in a folder 2008-10-29T14:17:12 dcnoye: shall we? 2008-10-29T14:17:13 Turns out that Alice has a sharing tab 2008-10-29T14:17:40 And Alice can assign and deassign the "can edit" role *for other users* 2008-10-29T14:17:44 Yikes! 2008-10-29T14:18:01 So Alice can take away Bob's edit rights if she wants 2008-10-29T14:18:03 *** dcnoye is now known as dcnoye|starbucks 2008-10-29T14:18:18 here is hoping she doesn't 2008-10-29T14:18:18 Seems an odd default setup to me 2008-10-29T14:18:20 arrg 2008-10-29T14:18:27 Bob is a nice fellow 2008-10-29T14:18:58 *** cewing has quit IRC 2008-10-29T14:19:08 Soooo, folks, if you don't want that to happen, you may want to make sure that the sharing tab only appears to certain roles (like Managers) 2008-10-29T14:19:25 Time for a policy product.... 2008-10-29T14:21:20 your very own rolemap.xml containing 2008-10-29T14:22:35 webliontickets: Ticket #850 (Add Seminars, Blogs, Newsletters/Publications, Espanol Portlets to Home ...) created 2008-10-29T14:23:40 Rebecca wants to know if anyone wants some sugar-free jello.... :D 2008-10-29T14:24:26 *** kevin7kal has quit IRC 2008-10-29T14:30:18 http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/internet/wifi.jsp 2008-10-29T14:30:20 Gah, Windows 7, gah http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7695933.stm 2008-10-29T14:32:05 *** gil1 has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T14:32:19 hehe they are trying to be a iPhone 2008-10-29T14:32:25 *** dcnoye|starbucks is now known as dcnoye 2008-10-29T14:36:24 webliontickets: Changeset [5561]: tweaks to css grey box and left nav position | Ticket #851 (Products.CSSManager-0.93a1-py2.4.egg presents itself as 0.9.2 beta) created 2008-10-29T14:36:43 do we have a name for the spandex lion on the door ? 2008-10-29T14:37:49 * dcnoye is thinking it should be "Ichabod Crane" 2008-10-29T14:40:38 webliontickets: Ticket #852 (upgrade from CSSManager ~0.91 to Products.CSSManager-0.93a1-py2.4.egg ...) created 2008-10-29T14:45:13 *** kevin7kal has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T14:45:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o kevin7kal 2008-10-29T14:52:28 *** mikehalm has quit IRC 2008-10-29T14:53:29 *** mib_jwhmem has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T14:53:46 hello anyone here? 2008-10-29T14:53:56 mib_jwhmem: possibly :) 2008-10-29T14:54:33 LOL i am trying to figure out how to install one of your themes phonethem.nautica05. Can someone help? 2008-10-29T14:54:34 webliontickets: Ticket #834 (Fix Navigation Portlet Structure Sitewide, Once Out of Plone 3.0 Hell) closed 2008-10-29T14:54:46 * catherine-w refers mib_jwhmem to RobZoneNet 2008-10-29T14:55:22 *** cah190 has quit IRC 2008-10-29T14:55:22 catherine-w: was that for me? 2008-10-29T14:55:47 hi mib_jwhmem 2008-10-29T14:55:48 webliontickets: Ticket #848 (Domain dairyalliance.psu.edu) updated 2008-10-29T14:55:48 mib_jwhmem: RobZoneNet is the theme's author 2008-10-29T14:55:52 i can help 2008-10-29T14:55:58 thanks 2008-10-29T14:56:09 mib_jwhmem: do you use buildout? 2008-10-29T14:56:18 i am very much a newbie and what to install your theme 2008-10-29T14:56:32 how did you install your plone 2008-10-29T14:56:34 RobZoneNet: need some help trying to use built out 2008-10-29T14:56:39 installer 2008-10-29T14:56:45 plone 3 installer 2008-10-29T14:56:46 *** esteele is now known as esteele|away 2008-10-29T14:57:43 do you see a buildout.cfg file in the first level of your install on your filesystem? 2008-10-29T14:57:44 webliontickets: Changeset [5562]: Added a KSS method to create an error dialog. Basic styles, no text yet. 2008-10-29T14:58:21 RobZoneNet: yes i used it to change my default port to 8181 2008-10-29T14:58:41 is that the one you are talking about? 2008-10-29T14:58:55 yep 2008-10-29T14:59:02 ok i have it open 2008-10-29T14:59:17 where it says "eggs =" 2008-10-29T14:59:22 add plonetheme.nautica05 to it 2008-10-29T14:59:55 and zcml = 2008-10-29T15:00:37 ok i added plonetheme.nautica05 to egg =. FYI it has elementtree and FeedParser there aready 2008-10-29T15:00:50 that will be fine 2008-10-29T15:01:20 what operating system are you? if you know how to rerun buildout thats what you need to do 2008-10-29T15:01:31 bin/buildout -n 2008-10-29T15:01:33 i think 2008-10-29T15:01:35 mac ox server 10.4 2008-10-29T15:01:54 RobZoneNet: the part of zcml = where do i put that? 2008-10-29T15:02:39 it is near the bottom of the buildout i think 2008-10-29T15:02:58 on mine it is belowe the 8080 part 2008-10-29T15:04:33 RobZoneNet: sorry i do not have zcml = on my build.cfg file? do i just add it? 2008-10-29T15:05:21 mib_jwhmem: you should have it... do a search 2008-10-29T15:05:33 its in my [instance] section 2008-10-29T15:06:12 [instance] recipe = plone.recipe.zope2instance zope2-location = ${zope2:location} # The line below sets only the initial password. It will not change an # existing password. user = admin:xuw17eSt http-address = 8181 effective-user = plone #debug-mode = on #verbose-security = on 2008-10-29T15:06:26 this is what is in my instance section 2008-10-29T15:06:40 * catherine-w wonders what wrote mib_jwhmem 's buildout.... 2008-10-29T15:07:08 catherine-w: i used plone installer to install this plone site 2008-10-29T15:07:29 Out of interest, which version of plone, on what kind of platform? 2008-10-29T15:07:39 there should be an eggs = , a zcml = and maybe a products = 2008-10-29T15:08:04 * catherine-w wonders whether it is an old installer 2008-10-29T15:08:04 you could probably just put in a: 2008-10-29T15:08:05 mib_jwhmem, consider using paste.plone.org for pasting your buildout next time 2008-10-29T15:08:09 Plone 3.1.6 2008-10-29T15:08:13 huh 2008-10-29T15:08:14 dcnoye: ok 2008-10-29T15:08:21 zcml = plonetheme.nautica05 to it 2008-10-29T15:09:38 RobZoneNet: i added below the http-address=8181 Ok?? 2008-10-29T15:09:55 maybe after the verbose-security 2008-10-29T15:10:18 kevin7kal: do you remember what kind of error you where getting when installing plonetheme.mobilize? 2008-10-29T15:10:42 uhhhhh 2008-10-29T15:11:02 RobZoneNet: ok i added that line is that it? 2008-10-29T15:11:08 where should i put the file itself? 2008-10-29T15:11:20 the file itself? 2008-10-29T15:11:49 i have the plonethe.nautica folder? 2008-10-29T15:11:55 kevin7kal: other than I left an annoying pdb line in it 2008-10-29T15:12:05 no not really 2008-10-29T15:12:41 when you run buildout.. it will go and get it for you 2008-10-29T15:12:46 RobZoneNet: i assume i have to put the theme nautical folder somewhere to install right? 2008-10-29T15:13:06 mib_jwhmem: nope 2008-10-29T15:13:06 RobZoneNet: i understand so it we just download ? 2008-10-29T15:13:23 sorry for all the newbie questions 2008-10-29T15:13:34 mib_jwhmem: no worries --- it's confusing! 2008-10-29T15:13:36 if you run bin/buildout it should go get it.. when you restart it should be there 2008-10-29T15:13:41 it is very confusing 2008-10-29T15:13:46 pumazi: http://paste.plone.org/24685 is the traceback 2008-10-29T15:13:53 so how does it know where to get the product? 2008-10-29T15:14:03 its up on pypi 2008-10-29T15:14:05 buildout is great for experienced developers, but not for people new to the commandline and new to plone 2008-10-29T15:14:14 http://pypi.python.org/pypi/plonetheme.nautica05/ 2008-10-29T15:14:23 so it goes there and brings it to your plone 2008-10-29T15:14:25 ok so just run build command right 2008-10-29T15:14:29 right 2008-10-29T15:14:35 kevin7kal: similar error i'm having with my current branch, but not the trunk 2008-10-29T15:15:26 this is revision 5528 2008-10-29T15:16:35 and plone 3.1.6 2008-10-29T15:16:36 webliontickets: Ticket #839 (Fix Headers and other Formatting on crbh, tetherton, pmke Sites) closed 2008-10-29T15:16:51 mib_jwhmem: if you want to know where it stores it on your machine ... on mine its at ~/.buildout/ 2008-10-29T15:18:46 RobZoneNet: what does the n do? 2008-10-29T15:19:22 it gets the newest versions 2008-10-29T15:19:47 mib_jwhmem: https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/wiki/BuildOut 2008-10-29T15:22:57 RobZoneNet: should comment out this line # user = admin:xuw17eSt since i have already change password? 2008-10-29T15:23:32 first off i would change your pswd since these chats are logged 2008-10-29T15:23:38 i usually leave it there 2008-10-29T15:23:42 k 2008-10-29T15:24:11 kevin7kal: are you putting it in your products folder rather than making it a development egg? 2008-10-29T15:24:28 :RobZoneNet i am getting this error Error: Couldn't open /opt/Plone-3.1/zinstance/bin/buildout.cfg 2008-10-29T15:24:40 when running builtout -n 2008-10-29T15:25:00 su 2008-10-29T15:25:11 i never use sudo 2008-10-29T15:25:13 or su 2008-10-29T15:25:24 i mean for buildout 2008-10-29T15:25:57 same error message with sudo 2008-10-29T15:26:44 mib_jwhmem: you edited the buildout.cfg file, right? 2008-10-29T15:26:50 yes 2008-10-29T15:27:04 hmm 2008-10-29T15:27:23 catherine-w: i have run this command before to change default port 2008-10-29T15:27:25 may be a permissions issue....??? 2008-10-29T15:27:45 but if you have run bin/buildout before, suggests not 2008-10-29T15:27:54 catherine-w: if i have a syntax error on build.cfg would i get the same error message 2008-10-29T15:28:14 it should run fine. Anyway you can put your whole buildout on paste.plone.org hiding the password ofcourse 2008-10-29T15:33:03 RobZoneNet: ok i have put my built.cfg file on plaste.plone.org 2008-10-29T15:35:01 *** cewing has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T15:35:03 for readability you should maybe on line 64 just have zcml = then on next line put the plonetheme.nautica05 with one tab.. lined up like the rest 2008-10-29T15:35:17 ok 2008-10-29T15:35:30 and indent 2008-10-29T15:35:33 i don't see anything else wrong 2008-10-29T15:35:34 yeah 2008-10-29T15:35:44 that is what is strange 2008-10-29T15:35:46 i don't know if other eyes see anything 2008-10-29T15:36:14 suggestion... if it's the installer, it might have an accompanying shell script to do something to buildout 2008-10-29T15:36:44 pumazi: but i ran builtout when i change ports without problems 2008-10-29T15:37:09 RobZoneNet: i am running in debug mode does that matter? 2008-10-29T15:37:32 no because i always run in debug 2008-10-29T15:37:37 did you stop your plone? 2008-10-29T15:37:42 no 2008-10-29T15:38:10 could you try it? 2008-10-29T15:38:18 ok 2008-10-29T15:38:58 if you want to see what buildout does you can put in a -v 2008-10-29T15:39:06 bin/buildout -nv 2008-10-29T15:39:24 what is hte correct way to start up plone? 2008-10-29T15:39:29 ls 2008-10-29T15:39:42 when developing its probably bin/instance fg 2008-10-29T15:39:57 how about stopping 2008-10-29T15:40:11 if running in the command line.. cntl c 2008-10-29T15:41:29 ok plone site is now stop now go ahead and run built out? 2008-10-29T15:41:48 try it, it may not make a difference 2008-10-29T15:42:13 same error message 2008-10-29T15:42:33 what happens if you take out what you added.. or put a # 2008-10-29T15:42:38 in front of them 2008-10-29T15:42:50 infront? 2008-10-29T15:43:01 ah never mind got it 2008-10-29T15:43:02 hang on 2008-10-29T15:43:06 ok 2008-10-29T15:43:47 *** L0u13 has joined #weblion 2008-10-29T15:45:08 no same error. I wonder if i added anything to config file my mistake 2008-10-29T15:45:35 i wonder if it went and got the egg for you 2008-10-29T15:46:13 see if ~/.buildout/plonetheme.nautica05... is there 2008-10-29T15:48:54 RobZoneNet: is that type the period infront of builtout? 2008-10-29T15:49:26 its a hidden file 2008-10-29T15:49:41