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2008-10-28T10:02:09  <rpruyne> if anybody knows where mike miller is, someone in veterinary science needs him
2008-10-28T10:02:26  <guy_heckman> morning everyone
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2008-10-28T10:23:21  <mikehalm> gil: Hello how is it going at UNAM?
2008-10-28T10:23:51  <mikehalm> morning guy_heckman!
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2008-10-28T10:24:04  <guy_heckman> morning
2008-10-28T10:25:05  <ErikRose> Howdy
2008-10-28T10:26:03  <guy_heckman> i know we talked about this before erik, but is everyone else seeing the same memory usage on their zope boxes?
2008-10-28T10:26:08  <gil> Hello
2008-10-28T10:26:32  <guy_heckman> more specifically on their vm's
2008-10-28T10:26:33  <ErikRose> guy_heckman: Refresh my memory. What sort are you seeing? IIRC, yours is worse than everyone else's.
2008-10-28T10:26:43  <ErikRose> Let me take a look at DAS.
2008-10-28T10:26:51  <ErikRose> beter yet, tlt, which is in production
2008-10-28T10:26:55  <gil> mikehalm: Hello from Mexico
2008-10-28T10:27:18  <guy_heckman> just curious if it has a tendancy to run at 80-90% of the ram
2008-10-28T10:27:53  <guy_heckman> i'm not having performance issues - just curiosity
2008-10-28T10:27:58  <ErikRose> TLT does, yes—out of 1GB.
2008-10-28T10:28:30  <ErikRose> The trick is to look at the inactive RAM and the swap. If you have none or some of that, respectively, start being concerned.
2008-10-28T10:28:41  <guy_heckman> ok, that makes me feel better
2008-10-28T10:28:45  <ErikRose> inactive+free, anyway
2008-10-28T10:28:56  <ErikRose> A good OS will use extra RAM for cache.
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2008-10-28T10:29:01  <ErikRose> No sense wasting it.
2008-10-28T10:29:09  <ErikRose> I think of inactive RAM as cache, essentially.
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2008-10-28T10:29:37  <guy_heckman> i get some s/o here and there - but nothing to to be concerned about from reading whitepapers
2008-10-28T10:29:52  <mikehalm> gil: glad to see you hanging out on our channel -- I just sent Sergio a long note.
2008-10-28T10:30:08  <ErikRose> s/o = swapout?
2008-10-28T10:30:13  <guy_heckman> yes
2008-10-28T10:30:25  <mikehalm> gil: how is your migration to 3.0 working out?
2008-10-28T10:30:31  <ErikRose> I don't like swap; I might add a little RAM.
2008-10-28T10:30:48  <gil> mikehalm: we are in the proces of extending the Person content type
2008-10-28T10:30:50  <ErikRose> Unless it's just some nightly job using extra RAM when nobody cares
2008-10-28T10:31:12  <guy_heckman> from the vmware articles i've read a little s/o is not necessarily bad
2008-10-28T10:31:22  <ErikRose> No, not necessarily
2008-10-28T10:31:44  <ErikRose> I'm not even positive that swap equates to actual disk writes on a VMWare guest.
2008-10-28T10:31:49  <guy_heckman> besides these vm's are performing the same whether i throw 2gb or 4gb at it
2008-10-28T10:32:04  <ErikRose> What, same amount of swapping?
2008-10-28T10:32:30  <guy_heckman> yeah - i think it's caching heavy
2008-10-28T10:32:40  <ErikRose> That's funny.
2008-10-28T10:32:43  <guy_heckman> actually i know it's caching heavy
2008-10-28T10:32:51  <mikehalm> gil: for FSD
2008-10-28T10:33:13  <guy_heckman> who is gil? introduce your friends mike :-P
2008-10-28T10:33:14  <gil> mikehalm: yes, we install plone 3 and FSD
2008-10-28T10:33:53  <ErikRose> Hi, gil! Could you spell your name for me, once and for all, so I stop misspelling it in articles? :-)
2008-10-28T10:34:29  <gil> ErikRose: yes my name is Gildardo :-D
2008-10-28T10:34:35  <ErikRose> Thank you!
2008-10-28T10:34:44  <ErikRose> I apologize for all my misspellings.
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2008-10-28T10:34:48  * ErikRose fixes articles.
2008-10-28T10:35:34  <gil> ErikRose: dont worry
2008-10-28T10:36:05  <ErikRose> People are always misspelling my name, so I try to get others' right. :-)
2008-10-28T10:36:55  <mikehalm> gil: sounds like you are making good progress
2008-10-28T10:37:00  <guy_heckman> Aireek?
2008-10-28T10:37:27  <mikehalm> gil: curious how you are extending person and for what purpose?
2008-10-28T10:37:37  <ErikRose> And guy_heckman is regressing.
2008-10-28T10:37:51  <guy_heckman> :-P
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2008-10-28T10:39:55  <gil> mikehalm: we need to keep more information about our Reserchers, and we use the example as a guide
2008-10-28T10:44:36  <gil> mikehalm: I must move the my office, it takes me around an hour. Glad we keep on touch.
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2008-10-28T11:17:41  <ErikRose> cah190: What do you think of a week-long FSD sprint in early December? We have managerial excitement sufficient to fly Cris out here.
2008-10-28T11:18:35  <cah190> I can't promise that I can commit to a whole week, but I would be up for another sprint.
2008-10-28T11:33:00  <ErikRose> We'll take whatever we can get. :-)
2008-10-28T11:33:21  <ErikRose> We'd possibly have the folks from Mexico, too.
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2008-10-28T13:22:05  <jdeluca> Hey ErikRose: A question about actions.py in the WebLionLibrary.
2008-10-28T13:22:11  <jdeluca> got a minute?
2008-10-28T13:23:03  <pumazi> jdeluca: he's actually out of the office at the moment
2008-10-28T13:23:14  <jdeluca> ok - thx
2008-10-28T13:25:35  <ErikRose> jdeluca: shoot
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2008-10-28T13:26:23  <jdeluca> Trying to add something to site_actions during Product install and that sort of works, but the uninstall isn't working.
2008-10-28T13:26:35  <jdeluca> Here's how I'm calling the uninstall:
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2008-10-28T13:27:02  <jdeluca> act = getToolByName(portal, 'portal_actions')
2008-10-28T13:27:02  <jdeluca>  deleteActions(act, 'site_actions/roster_synch','site_actions')
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2008-10-28T13:27:26  <jdeluca> I'm getting:  AttributeError: getCategory
2008-10-28T13:28:03  <jdeluca> The error of my ways?
2008-10-28T13:29:50  <jdeluca> I should add ... while the install adds to my site actions on the plone site, I am not getting an entry in the ZMI
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2008-10-28T13:31:33  <ErikRose> jdeluca: Hmm, I wonder if that needs updated for PLone 3.
2008-10-28T13:34:21  * ErikRose looks
2008-10-28T13:34:58  <ErikRose> jdeluca: Plone version?
2008-10-28T13:35:10  <ErikRose> Ah, charming. I never wrote any tests.
2008-10-28T13:35:19  <jdeluca> 3.1.4
2008-10-28T13:35:59  <jdeluca> hey - I thought I was the only one who forgot to write tests :-)
2008-10-28T13:45:24  <bpanulla> Stupid Python question.... I remember clearly playing around with making LDAP calls from Python a few weeks ago. And yet, today "import ldap" returns a "Whaaa?". Is there some other ldap library that I might have been using? Any ideas?
2008-10-28T13:45:33  <ErikRose> Alright, everybody, this is why you write tests. Now I have to go manually try this stuff to find joe's bug.
2008-10-28T13:45:45  <ErikRose> bpanulla: openldap
2008-10-28T13:46:11  <jdeluca> ruhroh - rorry Erik :-(
2008-10-28T13:46:14  <ErikRose> I think it is spelled "import ldap", though.
2008-10-28T13:46:19  <bpanulla> it was something I was running interactively
2008-10-28T13:46:22  <ErikRose> My bad. :-)
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2008-10-28T13:50:46  <ErikRose> jdeluca: 'Fraid I'm going to have to get back to you on this. Do you have a failing product you can point me to? That would make it easy for me to debug.
2008-10-28T13:50:49  <ErikRose> brb
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2008-10-28T13:59:44  <jdeluca> ErikRose:  meeting right now - no big rush.  I'll try to get you some more information to help asap.
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2008-10-28T14:55:43  <staze> esteele or cewing, you around?
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2008-10-28T14:57:39  <esteele> staze: What can I do for you?
2008-10-28T14:57:57  <staze> had an interesting one come up over the weekend trying to update to FSD 2.1...
2008-10-28T14:58:22  <staze> saying that no workflow supplied review_state, or something to that effect...
2008-10-28T14:58:32  <staze> ever seen that?
2008-10-28T14:58:56  <esteele> Not in regards to FSD, no.
2008-10-28T14:58:58  <esteele> Hmm...
2008-10-28T14:59:10  <staze> let me find the full traceback
2008-10-28T14:59:31  <esteele> Thanks.
2008-10-28T15:00:58  <staze> http://paste.plone.org/24645
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2008-10-28T15:02:10  <staze> the real confusing part is that it updated fine on our dev server... so something changed between the time our dev server was synced with the production, and now... *looks at Louie*
2008-10-28T15:02:24  <esteele> Heh.
2008-10-28T15:02:48  <staze> he seems to think we had workflow issues when we updated to FSD 2...
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2008-10-28T15:02:53  <staze> but I don't recall
2008-10-28T15:03:00  <L0u13> yoyo
2008-10-28T15:03:39  <esteele> Have you customized site workflows at all?
2008-10-28T15:03:45  <esteele> Hi, L0u13.
2008-10-28T15:04:05  <L0u13> hey esteele.
2008-10-28T15:06:06  <staze> we changed the workflow to hide inactive people...
2008-10-28T15:06:12  <staze> but that was a while ago...
2008-10-28T15:06:22  <L0u13> i think just after upgrading to FSD 2.0
2008-10-28T15:09:43  <cewing> -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =-
2008-10-28T15:10:11  <esteele> cewing: Any ideas on staze's error?
2008-10-28T15:10:34  * staze is trying to figure out when the dev server was last synced to the production
2008-10-28T15:11:19  <L0u13> cewing: that is pretty freaking cool.
2008-10-28T15:11:25  <cewing> not a clue
2008-10-28T15:11:47  <cewing> L0u13: no kidding.  And it filters for creative commons licenses, too!
2008-10-28T15:11:51  <staze> cewing: that is sweet!
2008-10-28T15:12:31  <cewing> staze: have you checked the portal_workflow tool to make sure that FSDPersons are under a rational workflow?
2008-10-28T15:13:33  <cewing> review_state is a basic property of anything that is workflowed, so if it isn't being found, I'd wonder if the object in question is not controlled by a workflow, or perhaps that the 'review_state' portal catalog index got borked somehow
2008-10-28T15:14:06  <cewing> You could certainly try going to the portal_catalog > indexes page and re-indexing the review_state index
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2008-10-28T15:16:58  <staze> were looking...
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2008-10-28T15:18:26  <L0u13> we can reindex, but can't run the update again until nighttime/weekend, so no idea if it'll fix the problem
2008-10-28T15:18:39  <L0u13> reindexing nonetheless
2008-10-28T15:18:46  <ErikRose_> rpruyne: ^/(pmke|tetherton|crbh)/.*/login_form$ /$1/logged_in
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2008-10-28T15:30:25  <L0u13> oddness ensues
2008-10-28T15:30:43  <esteele> oh?
2008-10-28T15:31:31  <L0u13> the person state for hide_inactive i created back when we upgraded to FSD2.0 isn't being applied to FSD Person
2008-10-28T15:31:42  <L0u13> and re-applying it doesn't hide inactive profiles
2008-10-28T15:32:04  <L0u13> so someone has gone in and deleted the profiles that were marked as inactive
2008-10-28T15:32:08  <staze> hmmm
2008-10-28T15:32:11  <staze> just thought of something...
2008-10-28T15:33:17  <staze> this might all be cewing's fault... =P
2008-10-28T15:33:33  <esteele> It always is.
2008-10-28T15:33:57  <staze> but, I still owe him a beer, so I can't go bad mouthing him too much...
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2008-10-28T15:34:22  <cewing> staze: It wasn't me! You can't prove a thing.  It was that way when I got here!
2008-10-28T15:34:44  <L0u13> staze: don't bite the hand that supports
2008-10-28T15:34:51  <cewing> :)
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2008-10-28T15:38:06  <ErikRose_> lol, cewing
2008-10-28T15:38:43  <cewing> ErikRose_: you got a moment for a question?
2008-10-28T15:39:05  <ErikRose_> fire at will. I might be slow.
2008-10-28T15:39:12  <cewing> np
2008-10-28T15:39:28  <cewing> I've got a form on this website I've been working on
2008-10-28T15:40:05  <cewing> It provides a tabular list of all the objects of a given type, allows you to page through them, select one or more, and click a 'download csv' button
2008-10-28T15:40:43  <cewing> the action for the button is a function that gathers up all the selected items, converts some of their fields into a csv file, and is supposed to download the csv file to your local machine
2008-10-28T15:41:04  <staze> cewing, remember how up recataloged the uids?
2008-10-28T15:41:04  <bpanulla> Did WebLion move, physically?
2008-10-28T15:41:36  <cewing> The function is working just fine, but when the file downloads instead of the csv content, it is the html source of the table form
2008-10-28T15:41:40  <ErikRose_> bpanulla: NOt especially
2008-10-28T15:41:44  <RobZoneNet> the spidercat is still here
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2008-10-28T15:41:56  <ErikRose> hehe, spidercat
2008-10-28T15:42:07  <cewing> I'm confused about how to get the csv content to download (I can see it in pdb, and am returning it from the function)
2008-10-28T15:42:13  <cewing> staze: I do
2008-10-28T15:42:14  <bpanulla> saw something on Twitter from CVJ about new neighbors
2008-10-28T15:42:34  <esteele> We're our own new neighbors.
2008-10-28T15:42:43  <RobZoneNet> bpanulla: we are growing so fast we moved him to rider
2008-10-28T15:42:47  <cewing> ErikRose: I've been modelling this off of the FSDPerson vcard view and the download_csv function in Products.PloneFormGen
2008-10-28T15:42:52  <RobZoneNet> to make room for new people
2008-10-28T15:43:06  <staze> cewing: would that screw with any workflows? like, would it maybe require me to recatalog other things? (I know you might not know, since prior to us doing that, we didn't really realize there was a uid_catalog)
2008-10-28T15:43:06  <ErikRose> http://www.phonezoo.com/squirrel-tarantula___w1PcwajOaXc0dk5xztFAAA___Photo.htm
2008-10-28T15:43:30  <RobZoneNet> lol ErikRose
2008-10-28T15:43:41  <cewing> In both those cases, it appears to be enough to set the right headers on the response and return the desired string
2008-10-28T15:43:55  <cewing> but in my case that appears to fail miserably :)
2008-10-28T15:44:10  <cewing> cewing: I don't think so, but I cannot say for sure
2008-10-28T15:44:22  <staze> you're talking to yourself. =P
2008-10-28T15:44:40  <cewing> I believe the UID catalog is separate from other catalogs, but I'm no catalog wizard
2008-10-28T15:45:32  <staze> *nods* i'm mainly curious if maybe workflows are still confused on the whole person vs. fsdperson thing... but, I could be completely wrong, and shooting wildly in the dark
2008-10-28T15:45:54  <staze> ErikRose: lol
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2008-10-28T15:49:11  <ErikRose> rpruyne: wget http://plone.org/products/redirectiontool/releases/1.2/redirectiontool-1.2-1.tgz
2008-10-28T15:50:11  <ErikRose> cewing: How the heck is it turning into an H TML table?
2008-10-28T15:51:33  <cewing> well, I think the response object is either getting mangled somewhere after my function runs, or the body of the response is alread set by the time I get there.
2008-10-28T15:51:40  <cewing> I'm not sure exactly.
2008-10-28T15:51:53  <ErikRose> That's some orderly mangling.
2008-10-28T15:52:07  <cewing> (it's a z3cform thing, so I'm pretty confused about the order of operations)
2008-10-28T15:52:54  <cewing> My plan was that the csv would download and the user would be returned to the form with a status message saying 'operation successful' or something like that
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2008-10-28T15:53:44  <cewing> the last part of that is working fine, the form reloads with the appropriate status message, but for some reason, my csv output is being overwritten with the html source of the entire form page (plone frame included) :P
2008-10-28T15:56:03  <ErikRose> That's capitally weird.
2008-10-28T15:56:56  <esteele> cewing: Have you tried it without returning with the status message?
2008-10-28T15:57:06  <ErikRose> Bingo!
2008-10-28T15:57:21  <esteele> I mean, if I get a download window popping up, I'm going to assume something worked properly. :P
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2008-10-28T16:08:39  <cewing> esteele: good point.  I'll try that out and see what happens.
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2008-10-28T16:13:22  <salviga2> Can anyone please help me understand why this code: http://paste.plone.org/24649 is not working properly?  It is facultystaffextender based closely upon the example.  When I comment out the modifyciddfields related code, all schema items such as mobile phone, fax and hobbies are added fine, but when I un comment out the modiyciddfields stuff, the new schema items do not load.
2008-10-28T16:14:20  <salviga2> beside the first line "f" missing, this is just because i cut wrong
2008-10-28T16:20:08  <cewing> salviga2: I don't think you need to import the schema for FSDPerson.  I believe that by identifying the extender as adapting IPerson, that is taken care of.
2008-10-28T16:20:19  <cewing> Perhaps that's the source of your problem?
2008-10-28T16:22:25  <salviga2> cewing: thank you, i will comment out that line
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2008-10-28T16:26:11  <staze> anyone have a launchd plist for starting and stopping zope on startup and shutdown?
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2008-10-28T16:26:37  <staze> (random question so I could potentially save myself some work)
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2008-10-28T16:30:04  <salviga2> cewing: that did not help
2008-10-28T16:31:47  <cewing> salviga2: Here's one that i use that works.  I can't see anything in mine that's different from yours other than the import of the schema.  But perhaps you can spot something:  http://paste.plone.org/24650
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2008-10-28T16:33:58  <staze> okay... does anyone have a sh script that starts and stops zope? =P
2008-10-28T16:34:52  <staze> (not just zopectl....
2008-10-28T16:35:03  <staze> ideally a script that would start zeo, then all the instances
2008-10-28T16:35:07  <staze> )
2008-10-28T16:36:58  <staze> duh...
2008-10-28T16:36:59  <staze> http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/simple-etc-rc-d-init-d-script-for-zeocluster
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2008-10-28T16:53:16  <L0u13> more like staze is a hack :P
2008-10-28T16:53:27  <L0u13> kidding.
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2008-10-28T17:51:15  <cewing> ErikRose: if you're there, do you know of a built-in that exchanges keys and values in a dict?  I've written something, but it seems like there ought to be a built-in that does that
2008-10-28T17:51:30  <ErikRose_> That's nasty.
2008-10-28T17:51:34  <ErikRose_>  why?
2008-10-28T17:52:23  <ErikRose_> dict([v, k for k, v in someDict.items()])
2008-10-28T17:52:54  * Guest66008 wonders who Guest66008 is
2008-10-28T17:53:07  <Guest66008> Ah, that would be me then
2008-10-28T17:53:18  <cewing> ErikRose: exactly what I'd come up with
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2008-10-28T17:53:32  <ErikRose_> How existential.
2008-10-28T17:53:57  <ErikRose_> cewing: But that's a strange thing to do. What's your motivation?
2008-10-28T17:54:04  <cewing> I've got a dictionary that translates the header titles in a file I'm parsing to field names for the object they are being parsed to
2008-10-28T17:54:04  <Guest66008> Not really, ErikRose -- just a problem with colloquy config
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2008-10-28T17:54:24  <ErikRose_> ah
2008-10-28T17:54:27  <catherine-w> Ah
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2008-10-28T17:54:58  * catherine-w wonders why that Guest stuff happened....
2008-10-28T17:55:10  <cewing> Now I'm downloading a csv of those objects, and want to make the first row the names of the headers from the original file, so I just flip around the translation dictionary and bingo, everything appears as before :)
2008-10-28T17:55:53  <cewing> whoopie!
2008-10-28T17:56:07  * catherine-w claps cewing
2008-10-28T17:56:38  * cewing bows, and gratefully acknowledges Python, which makes things nice and clean!
2008-10-28T17:57:48  <cewing> ErikRose: btw, I figured out the problem from before.
2008-10-28T17:57:51  <ErikRose> Actually, if you use double parens rather than [], it might be more scalable, but it doesn't matter.
2008-10-28T17:57:55  <ErikRose> What was it?
2008-10-28T17:58:13  <cewing> Didn't need to skip the status thing for getting my csv to download
2008-10-28T17:58:23  <cewing> just needed to do response.write(mystuff)
2008-10-28T17:58:36  <ErikRose> odd
2008-10-28T17:58:40  <cewing> bingo, no more html
2008-10-28T17:58:57  <cewing> I agree, but as it is working, I'm going to shut my eyes and forge ahead!
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2008-10-28T18:11:24  <catherine-w> hello salviga2 -- did you get your FSD extender working OK?
2008-10-28T18:17:29  <catherine-w> salviga2 -- one thing occurs to me... if you copied your code from a browser view of our svn repository, you may have inadvertently copied some "gremlins" (hidden characters) with it. These might be screwing up your code
2008-10-28T18:17:52  <catherine-w> This has certainly happened to me before... what is perfectly valid code fails to work because of "gremlins"
2008-10-28T18:18:39  <catherine-w> You could try "zapping gremlins" using TextWrangler or equivalent, or alternatively manually retyping the code (rather than pasting in something copied from your web browser)
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2008-10-28T22:55:16  <ErikRose> Btw, all you people reading the chat logs: metadata.xml is the new version.txt. Stop having version.txt unless you need to support old plones.
2008-10-28T22:55:38  <ErikRose> This public service anouncement has been brought to you by the Council for OnceAndOnlyOnce.
2008-10-28T23:38:51  <ErikRose> Plone 4 is going to be so simple.
2008-10-28T23:38:59  <ErikRose> All you'll need to understand is easy_install, eggs, buildout, WSGI, ZCML, HTML, JavaScript, CSS, KSS, Python, TAL, METAL, paster, Squid, Apache, repoze, and Deliverance.
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