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2008-10-14T10:02:52  <mikehalm> lcanas: where are you located?
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2008-10-14T10:07:01  <cthomas> good morning all
2008-10-14T10:07:25  <lynnp08> morning cthomas
2008-10-14T10:07:32  <cthomas> ErikRose, I have a quick question for you I believe
2008-10-14T10:08:31  <ErikRose> In a meeting, but fire at will
2008-10-14T10:10:39  <lcanas> mikehalm: Madrid :)
2008-10-14T10:11:44  <cthomas> I remember asking this a while ago.  How does one change the internal log in buttons to point to Co-sign?  I have a blog that has the "log in to add comments" button.  It points to the Plone login, not Co-sign.  I remember you said there was a way to fix this.
2008-10-14T10:11:46  <mikehalm> lcanas: were you at teh Plone conference?
2008-10-14T10:12:21  <cthomas> ErikRose, we're using Linux/Apache now...btw.  :)
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2008-10-14T10:40:49  <ErikRose> cthomas: Awesome. Plone 3? If so, use WebServerAuth, and you're done.
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2008-10-14T10:41:12  <cthomas> ErikRose, yes, we're using Plone 3.1.5.1 on this box
2008-10-14T10:41:17  <cthomas> and WebServerAuth
2008-10-14T10:41:26  <ErikRose> WSA will jigger the login link for you when you install it.
2008-10-14T10:41:45  <cthomas> but my "internal" logins are still going to the Plone Login
2008-10-14T10:41:51  <cthomas> did I do something out of sequence?
2008-10-14T10:42:06  <ErikRose> What's an internal login?
2008-10-14T10:42:23  <cthomas> "log in to add comments" button
2008-10-14T10:42:30  <cthomas> on our blog
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2008-10-14T11:04:06  <MacYET> moin
2008-10-14T11:04:33  <esteele> Hi, MacYET.
2008-10-14T11:04:37  <ErikRose> 'allo
2008-10-14T11:04:42  <RobZoneNet> hello MacYET
2008-10-14T11:05:12  * MacYET rewrote the cmfbib-fsd code last night at Dullas Airport
2008-10-14T11:05:22  <ErikRose> Nice!
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2008-10-14T11:38:35  <ErikRose> Grah. Made it through my morning meeting, but my stomach has caught up with me. :-(
2008-10-14T11:38:43  <ErikRose> I'll be out sick the rest of the day.
2008-10-14T11:39:51  <RobZoneNet> get better man
2008-10-14T11:39:57  <ErikRose> Thanks, dood.
2008-10-14T11:42:11  * ErikRose hopes Sprite is as good as 7-up for an upset stomach.
2008-10-14T11:42:52  <ErikRose> Encryption is so tricky today, with drives having automatic wear-leveling and such.
2008-10-14T11:43:15  <ErikRose> You can delete and overwrite stuff all you want and still have chunks of it on the disk.
2008-10-14T11:43:34  <ErikRose> I guess we can't reach a 100% solution for existing machines.
2008-10-14T11:44:18  <ErikRose> I'm also leery of mandating use of a crappy piece of software that will destabilize machines, a la Symantec Antivirus.
2008-10-14T11:44:30  <RobZoneNet> right
2008-10-14T11:44:53  <ErikRose> I'm going to push for mandating (or recommending, or whatever we do) a certain strength of encryption and giving a few suggestions of products that meet our standards.
2008-10-14T11:45:24  <ErikRose> I'm afraid of commiting to PGP, and then they never update their stuff for 10.6 compatibility, for instance.
2008-10-14T11:46:38  <ErikRose> That's one reason I like FileVault.
2008-10-14T11:46:51  <ErikRose> I dislike it because everybody around here runs as admin and will keep stuff outside the encrypted image.
2008-10-14T11:46:59  * ErikRose doesn't run as admin. ;-)
2008-10-14T11:47:44  <ErikRose> Swap encryption is on by default in 10.5. Hooray.
2008-10-14T11:47:50  <ErikRose> Maybe even 10.4
2008-10-14T11:48:07  <ErikRose> It'd be nice if we could find something open source and free.
2008-10-14T11:48:50  <ErikRose> https://wikispaces.psu.edu/display/TLTsecurity/Goals
2008-10-14T11:48:58  <ErikRose> If that's not open, I'll bitch.
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2008-10-14T11:52:42  <rose_pruyne> hey there, erikrose, can i meet with you sometime this or next week for an hour or so? i have a few hosting setup questions; at this point they mostly have to do with users and authentication. but i might have more later.
2008-10-14T11:53:03  <ErikRose> Sure. I'm out sick today, but maybe later this week.
2008-10-14T11:53:21  <ErikRose> Go ahead and stick something on my calendar Thursday or Friday if you like.
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2008-10-14T11:53:38  <rose_pruyne> sounds good, erikrose. thanks a bunch.
2008-10-14T11:53:42  <ErikRose> np
2008-10-14T12:04:07  <rose_pruyne> erikrose, i think i placed 11-12 Friday on your calendar. i've never used oracle calendar before, so i might have inadvertently scheduled this for the year 2218. heh.
2008-10-14T12:04:20  <ErikRose> hehe, sounds good
2008-10-14T12:04:25  <dcnoye> ErikRose: it's not open
2008-10-14T12:04:32  * ErikRose will bitch or fix it.
2008-10-14T12:05:07  <rose_pruyne> 'kay erikrose
2008-10-14T12:06:00  <rose_pruyne> anytime friday works for me, erikrose if that's not open.
2008-10-14T12:06:09  <rose_pruyne> thursday sucks however
2008-10-14T12:06:46  <ErikRose> If it looks open, it's open. :-)
2008-10-14T12:06:55  <rose_pruyne> cool.
2008-10-14T12:08:22  <ErikRose> Whole-disk encryption titillates and terrifies me.
2008-10-14T12:08:26  <ErikRose> The security is great.
2008-10-14T12:08:43  <ErikRose> The oh-shit factor when something goes wrong and you can't use any disk-recovery utils isn't so great.
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2008-10-14T12:35:27  <mib_2c3xfb> R U guys having the Intro/beginner group today?
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2008-10-14T13:23:01  <catherine-w> ping RobZoneNet
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2008-10-14T13:26:35  <catherine-w> Hi esteele or dcnoye, if RobZoneNet comes back on this channel, could you possibly draw his attention to the fact that there will be one new person attending Plone for Beginners today (from Eberly College of Science)?
2008-10-14T13:26:48  <esteele> Will do.
2008-10-14T13:26:52  <esteele> He's up there now, I think.
2008-10-14T13:27:03  <catherine-w> -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =-
2008-10-14T13:27:51  <catherine-w> He may not have spotted the email about it, 'cos he may have set off before it arrived
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2008-10-14T13:30:12  <esteele> Good timing. :)
2008-10-14T13:31:08  <esteele> RobZoneNet: catherine-w wanted to let you know that "there will be one new person attending Plone for Beginners today (from Eberly College of Science)"
2008-10-14T13:31:24  <RobZoneNet> thanks, saw the email
2008-10-14T13:31:24  <catherine-w> thanks, esteele -- beat me to it!
2008-10-14T13:31:37  <RobZoneNet> will wait for her
2008-10-14T13:31:41  <catherine-w> Cool -- have fun :)
2008-10-14T13:31:49  <RobZoneNet> you too :)
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2008-10-14T13:32:44  <dcnoye> esteele: just a second
2008-10-14T13:33:03  <esteele> dcnoye: Nevermind. We just needed Rob's attention.
2008-10-14T13:36:36  <dcnoye> esteele:  can you check the audio rtsp://video.weblion.psu.edu/stream53.sdp
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2008-10-14T13:37:22  <dcnoye> or anyone
2008-10-14T13:37:51  <esteele> Lot of background noise.
2008-10-14T13:38:02  <esteele> Tell Rob to say something.
2008-10-14T13:39:19  <dcnoye> esteele: reconnect, I had to change a setting
2008-10-14T13:39:21  <esteele> dcnoye: The video streaming isn't there so you can curse at people not in the room. ;)
2008-10-14T13:39:46  * dcnoye cursing
2008-10-14T13:40:05  <esteele> That's better.
2008-10-14T13:40:07  <esteele> Could be louder.
2008-10-14T13:40:16  <esteele> Echo-y.
2008-10-14T13:40:43  <esteele> Somewhat. Could be worse.
2008-10-14T13:40:51  <esteele> Not worth worrying about.
2008-10-14T13:41:40  <RobZoneNet> cjohansen: can you see my desktop?
2008-10-14T13:41:47  <dcnoye> thanks esteele
2008-10-14T13:42:12  <cjohansen> RobZoneNet: I see you
2008-10-14T13:42:17  <RobZoneNet> thanks
2008-10-14T13:42:40  <cjohansen> URL: https://breeze.psu.edu/r12467318/
2008-10-14T13:47:11  <cjohansen> There's no voice
2008-10-14T13:48:49  <RobZoneNet> can you hear now
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2008-10-14T16:16:42  <pumazi> esteele: Do you have any idea if main_template has an interface attached to it somewhere? Or where it originates from?
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2008-10-14T16:29:58  <esteele> pumazi: This might be useful... http://pypi.python.org/pypi/plone.browserlayer
2008-10-14T16:31:37  <pumazi> esteele: thanks
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2008-10-14T16:34:47  <esteele> pumazi: And this is the relevant code from GloWorm. https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/browser//weblion/plone.app.gloworm/trunk/src/plone/app/gloworm/browser/viewlets.py#L25
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2008-10-14T23:47:53  <cewing> timmonsd: ping
2008-10-14T23:50:00  <timmonsd> cewing how are you
2008-10-14T23:50:02  <timmonsd> ?
2008-10-14T23:50:09  <cewing> not bad
2008-10-14T23:50:28  <cewing> dealing with a three year old who missed his daddy and is punishing me for it
2008-10-14T23:50:36  <cewing> :)
2008-10-14T23:50:57  <timmonsd> me too!  I have been watched every move I make since I have been home
2008-10-14T23:51:05  <cewing> :D
2008-10-14T23:51:15  <cewing> why are you on so late?
2008-10-14T23:51:53  <timmonsd> I am going to a python meeting tomorrow on Sphinx and reading the documentation.  though I would check in
2008-10-14T23:52:28  <timmonsd> did you get more done at the sprint?
2008-10-14T23:52:46  <cewing> tons.
2008-10-14T23:52:50  <timmonsd> sorry I had to leave DC on a 8:55 am flight
2008-10-14T23:53:04  <cewing> got the 2.1 release finalized, although we didn't manage to finish building an egg or a tarball
2008-10-14T23:53:17  <cewing> ErikRose will be finishing that up soon
2008-10-14T23:53:32  <cewing> Michael got the Generic Setup installation fixed up.
2008-10-14T23:53:36  <timmonsd> you guys let me know what I can do. Documentation etc
2008-10-14T23:53:38  <cewing> All the tests pass
2008-10-14T23:53:44  <cewing> Will do!
2008-10-14T23:53:45  <timmonsd> cool on the Generic test
2008-10-14T23:53:50  <cewing> Thanks again for all your help
2008-10-14T23:54:03  <cewing> I got to buy Michael a beer, but owe you one ;)
2008-10-14T23:54:32  <timmonsd> your welcome and thanks
2008-10-14T23:54:39  <timmonsd> we will have a cold one again!
2008-10-14T23:55:11  <timmonsd> hey since we are becoming power user on FSD how about we start making screencast with audio for the features?
2008-10-14T23:55:19  <timmonsd> users!
2008-10-14T23:55:23  <cewing> that's a great idea
2008-10-14T23:56:01  <cewing> It's got such a large range of possible uses, it's a good candidate for a whole series of screencasts
2008-10-14T23:56:10  <timmonsd> I have talked to my Matt and we can knock them out pretty easy(good quality etc)
2008-10-14T23:56:13  <timmonsd> I agree
2008-10-14T23:56:18  <timmonsd> there is a lot there
2008-10-14T23:56:55  <cewing> great
2008-10-14T23:57:21  <cewing> might be a good idea to coordinate with the Weblion on what topics, scope and length to work towards.
2008-10-14T23:57:45  <cewing> Maybe we can all settle on what we'd like the series to look like, and then set about making them
2008-10-14T23:57:57  <cewing> That'd be an awesome contribution to the project!
2008-10-14T23:58:33  <timmonsd> sounds good I we can set up a chat with them and see what they would like
2008-10-14T23:59:54  <timmonsd> check your email now for a mockup of the fsd site we are setting up